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LA Attorneys - Buying a home (hurricane) question

Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am
Out of curiosity, what would happen if we had decided to buy a home in New Orleans in 2005. We went through all the necessary steps (secured the financing, performed home inspections, etc.).

However, prior to the closing , Hurricane Katrina hits South Louisiana and destroys the home. Who would be on the hook?

I assume after the closing, we would be liable, right? That's why (at least in my experience), the lender had insurance tied in with our mortgage note. But what about before the closing? The seller can't perform as a house isn't standing.

This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:33 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155439 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:32 am to
K was 2005 baw
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:33 am to
quote:

K was 2005 baw


Made the change. Thanks.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10998 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:33 am to
Can't close if there's a hurricane threat
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19245 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:34 am to
If you haven't gone to closing you are in an "option" to buy, so option out
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:37 am to
quote:

However, prior to the closing , Hurricane Katrina hits South Louisiana and destroys the home. Who would be on the hook?


Prior to closing, you can walk away. You don't own the home yet.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Prior to closing, you can walk away. You don't own the home yet.



1.)Would I have any issues with the lender (let's say I signed the promissory note)?

2.) What if I had signed the contract, but the deed wasn't passed over to me (or the lender) yet and then Katrina destroys the home?
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18784 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:42 am to
Why don't you just tell us what the frick is going on?
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Why don't you just tell us what the frick is going on?


Nothing? It's just out of curiosity and I'm trying to just learn something new. You should try that sometime....

I could doctor it to Florida (hurricane) or Chicago (a fire).

I knew Louisiana was based on a different "French - Napoleonic law" so I was just curious if things were different (for the better or the worse).

Chill the frick out. It's a message board.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:45 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30042 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:44 am to
My son was supposed to close on his house yesterday (both his condo he's selling, and the home he's buying in Martin County). Both closings put on hold because banks withhold financing while a storm is a threat. Will have to redo both appraisals and inspections after Irma passes. So the deals are delayed another couple weeks, most likely.

Until closing, you still own your home and the seller owns (and is responsible for) his/hers.
Posted by oilattorney4lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2068 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:46 am to
quote:

If you haven't gone to closing you are in an "option" to buy, so option out





This is actually incorrect. Once you pass a certain period in the buying process you are bound to purchase. In a normal scenario you could not opt out the day before purchase. You would be sued for specific performance.

In this case, the contract to buy could be voided because the object of the contract is no longer the same. The seller would have to repair the property to original condition before the closing date, which would be impossible so the buyer would be able to extinguish the contract after the missed closing date.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64133 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:03 am to
I'm under contract on a home down the road from mine in palm beach gardens. Supposed to close 10/6. I've been assured that we have a ton of protection to walk away and any damage would be taken care of by seller insurance.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:05 am to
It's civilian law, which is what the French "Napolenoic law" you speak of is based off of.

And, use common sense. If you haven't closed on the house, why the hell would you be signing promissory notes or mortgages? You sign those when you close and get funded for the loan. You don't own the home or sign any documents until you close, unless you're just dumb.

This isn't a Louisiana law question.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:06 am to
quote:

You would be sued for specific performance.


Completely disfavored remedy under Louisiana law. No one is going to force you to purchase a house you no longer want.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:38 am to
quote:

1.)Would I have any issues with the lender (let's say I signed the promissory note)?

2.) What if I had signed the contract, but the deed wasn't passed over to me (or the lender) yet and then Katrina destroys the home?


If you haven't closed, you don't own the house and the mortgage is not final. It can all be voided. You're off the hook and seller better hope they still had insurance on the property. This is why sellers aren't supposed to cancel their insurance until the sale is CLOSED.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:41 am to
You aren't going to sign the note before closing
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2920 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:42 am to
quote:

In this case, the contract to buy could be voided because the object of the contract is no longer the same. The seller would have to repair the property to original condition before the closing date, which would be impossible so the buyer would be able to extinguish the contract after the missed closing date.


Additionally, the buy/sell agreement typically conditions the sale upon the ability of the buyer to obtain financing. If the bank will not finance because of the destruction or threat of destruction to the home, buyer will not be obligated to purchase.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:44 am to
A) You don't sign a promissory until closing
B) Hurricane in Gulf, no insurance policy, no closing
C) You can walk, tough shite on seller
Posted by oilattorney4lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2068 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Completely disfavored remedy under Louisiana law. No one is going to force you to purchase a house you no longer want.


Wrong. You're just spewing what you learned at Southern Law last year.

I don't know where you get your knowledge from but trust me 20 years of contractual litigation and title work here says otherwise.
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