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Audit: FEMA owed $2 billion from New Orleans for replacing sewer infrastructure

Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:09 pm
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DHS: FEMA, Take Back Katrina $2B From New Orleans. FEMA: No

Shameful

The Federal Emergency Management Agency should take back $2 billion dollars in grants approved to fix New Orleans sewers and water pipes damaged by Hurricane Katrina, and to repair streets afterward, a federal audit says. FEMA says no.

The Department of Homeland Security inspector general's office prepared the audit. It says the pipes were old and in bad condition before the storm, and the city didn't have paperwork to prove the damages are disaster related, news outlets reported.


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An audit says the Federal Emergency Management Agency should take back $2 billion dollars approved to fix New Orleans sewers and water pipes damaged by Hurricane Katrina, and to fix streets afterward. FEMA says no.


Disaster response hasn't gotten any better since then, either.

Should the Fed's get that money back?
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:12 pm to
FEMA should be dismantled.

If you build in an area prone to natural disasters and your shite gets destroyed by a natural disaster, and you didn't have insurance, too bad.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:16 pm to
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If you build in an area prone to natural disasters and your shite gets destroyed by a natural disaster, and you didn't have insurance, too bad.



The audit seems to indicate that FEMA should not have paid to rebuild New Orleans's sewer and draining infrastructure because it was in horrible condition prior to the storm. That's not really news to anyone that lived there before Katrina.

If you have insurance on your 20 year old roof when a storm passes through, your insurance wouldn't cough up 100% of replacement costs.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:18 pm to
Did the government build the levees that broke? Just pass the bill on down to the Army Corps.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:20 pm to
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If you have insurance on your 20 year old roof when a storm passes through, your insurance wouldn't cough up 100% of replacement costs.


So? This is an example of why we are $20T in debt and rising. How it is my problem if a Hurricane rips your house apart? Just as how would it be YOUR problem if a tornado ripped my house apart? Yet in either case, here's Uncle Sugar to give you some money if that happens.
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Should the Fed's get that money back?


Yes. Every major city is repairing and restructuring their sewer systems without the help of DC. EPA says you can't have that stormwater mixing with turd water.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Did the government build the levees that broke? Just pass the bill on down to the Army Corps.



Did the flooding actually cause $2 billion in damage to New Orleans sewer system? That's what the audit is contesting.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:35 pm to
Make em pay up
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:38 pm to
They'll pay up, but not with my tourist dollars.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16075 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:41 pm to
The check is in the mail.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39568 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:57 pm to
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If you build in an area prone to natural disasters and your shite gets destroyed by a natural disaster, and you didn't have insurance, too bad.


Define "prone".

I do agree with the premise that insurance should be purchased before disaster strikes, or it isn't insurance. We shouldn't incentivize free riders.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:11 pm to
"You're doin a great job Brownie"

FEMA actually does a good these days.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41174 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

If you have insurance on your 20 year old roof when a storm passes through, your insurance wouldn't cough up 100% of replacement costs.


the total cost to replace is $8 billion, FEMA paid 25% of that ($2 billion)
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:24 pm to
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FEMA says no.


This is the takeaway. Nola won't have to pay the money back, at least not for any reason regarding eligibility.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Should the Fed's get that money back?
I wonder if FEMA would accept a few bronze statues as payment in full??
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:29 pm to
So all of you conservatives on this board who shite in the Ne Orleans sewage system are not quite the rugged individuals you'd like to pretend you are, huh? fricking commies......


I shite in a septic tank on MY propert....I don't need any assistance from taxpayers dealing with my shite.....
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:37 pm to
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So all of you conservatives on this board who shite in the Ne Orleans sewage system are not quite the rugged individuals you'd like to pretend you are, huh? fricking commies......


I shite in a septic tank on MY propert....I don't need any assistance from taxpayers dealing with my shite.....


What are you babbling about now?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41174 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:25 pm to
The city was sued and had to sign a consent decree in 1998, because it violated the Clean Water Act. Seems it is against the rules that raw sewage can't be mixed with drinking water, which was occurring in New Orleans East.

The deadline to fix those pipes has been extended three times. Going on twenty years and the residents of the lower 9th ward and New Orleans East pipes still aren't fixed.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 4:07 pm to
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Seems it is against the rules that raw sewage can't be mixed with drinking water, which was occurring in New Orleans East


That's shocking disgusting. Even for New Orleans.
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