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Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:21 pm to jimbeam
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Because if you do have the water deep enough it is a dream. And if you don't, pull out the paddle and it's like any other kayak. I guarantee I have caught more fish because I bought my hobie
I totally understand buying things that are nice because it makes them easier to use. Ergo, you catch more fish because you fish more often.
The deal with the pro angler is for not much more money you could get a Gheenoe w/ an outboard. If you shop around you could probably buy one for less than a Hobie. It will draft about the same as the PA and has all the same advantages as a small poling skiff. Best part is, you don't have to strap a dozen rods to an old milk crate, wear crocs, or take forever at the boat ramp
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I much prefer redfishing. I love sneaking into a pond like a ninja.
If this is what you like to do, I highly suggest trying it on a poling skiff with a fly rod.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:35 pm to Barf
I def want to get a poling skiff in the future, but for now we have a boat that can run to the islands and kayaks for the interior ponds. We don't need another boat.
Kayaks are cheaper, less maintenance, easy to store, easy to haul, easy to launch, etc.
Sometimes the answer to "why?" is as simple as "I enjoy kayak fishing."
Kayaks are cheaper, less maintenance, easy to store, easy to haul, easy to launch, etc.
Sometimes the answer to "why?" is as simple as "I enjoy kayak fishing."
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:53 pm to Barf
Same reason I'll never have a PA unless I win one or something like that. Kayak fishing for me is a means of getting on the water cheap as a real boat simply isn't in the cards right now. I bought my Slayer used, added a GPS/depth finder to keep my goofy arse from getting lost and have about $1500 in it. I truly enjoy it, even when I don't catch fish I really just enjoy the peace and quiet paddling around. I can have all my gear loaded and unloaded in 2 minutes or less, cost per trip is low and when I do catch fish I find it more rewarding. I may one day get an Outback but it's certainly not a guarantee, I certainly can't justify the $3200 new price of a PA. I'm baffled as hell that some have been willing to drop the $5700 on the PA17.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:54 pm to Barf
My Hobie PA let me take almost as much crap with me as my ranger did. I like that. Plus I could get further into the marsh. Making a 6+mile trip wasn't that crazy.
But it wasn't that great in really shallow stuff. My flats boat could operate shallower. And it was a beast to handle. I had an easier time launching my boat by myself. Ultimately i didn't use it as much as I thought I would due to that and sold it for a small loss.
The electronics are only useful for people fishing tournaments looking for the right water to pull in some bull reds or where you can catch snapper in paddling distance. Otherwise is useless to me. I definitely wouldn't have one.
But it wasn't that great in really shallow stuff. My flats boat could operate shallower. And it was a beast to handle. I had an easier time launching my boat by myself. Ultimately i didn't use it as much as I thought I would due to that and sold it for a small loss.
The electronics are only useful for people fishing tournaments looking for the right water to pull in some bull reds or where you can catch snapper in paddling distance. Otherwise is useless to me. I definitely wouldn't have one.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:02 pm to YOURADHERE
What I most enjoy about kayak fishing, in addition to the peace and quiet, is not feeling obligated to put anyone else on fish. When we're in the boat, I almost feel like a guide. Studying the maps, picking the spots, handling the trolling motor, making sure everyone can reach the good fishing spots, etc.
On the kayak I have no one to worry about but myself. It's very relaxing.
On the kayak I have no one to worry about but myself. It's very relaxing.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:10 pm to KG6
I definitely don't use my yak as much as I thought I would. But there's 4 other boats I can use. Once we get a trolling motor on the mud boat I don't even know if I'll take the yak out unless a buddy is hell bent on kayak fishing.
It seemed quicker, but honestly the loading it from apartment into truck, loading rods and gear, getting to launch, unloading yak, setting up gear and rods in yack, launching yack probably takes me longer than connecting the boat and launching.
It's different, and enjoyable. A little more rewarding. Per trip cost is less for sure. But I'm not sure I'd get one again looking back.
I did feel pretty silly after realizing I'm my yak and rigging and all for about 750, and around the same time my dad got an 11' jon boat with 8.5hp long tail for 500 bucks.
I'll probably hang onto the thing, use it a few times a year, and end up leaving it at a camp if life is so fortunate as to allow me to have one sometime down the road.
ETA I want to add that if it wasn't for wind I'd probably want to take the yak out a lot more.
It seemed quicker, but honestly the loading it from apartment into truck, loading rods and gear, getting to launch, unloading yak, setting up gear and rods in yack, launching yack probably takes me longer than connecting the boat and launching.
It's different, and enjoyable. A little more rewarding. Per trip cost is less for sure. But I'm not sure I'd get one again looking back.
I did feel pretty silly after realizing I'm my yak and rigging and all for about 750, and around the same time my dad got an 11' jon boat with 8.5hp long tail for 500 bucks.
I'll probably hang onto the thing, use it a few times a year, and end up leaving it at a camp if life is so fortunate as to allow me to have one sometime down the road.
ETA I want to add that if it wasn't for wind I'd probably want to take the yak out a lot more.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:18 pm to jimbeam
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You using popping cork?
Topwater
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:19 pm to Barf
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The deal with the pro angler is for not much more money you could get a Gheenoe w/ an outboard. If you shop around you could probably buy one for less than a Hobie.
Can't fish the kayak tournaments in a Gheenoe!
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:25 pm to Boats n Hose
I have a PA14 and love it. . . definitely worth the cash if you have it to spend.
My first kayak was a Wilderness Ride 135, about 1/3 the cost of a new PA. It got the job done just as well as the PA, but did not have the comfort of the PA. Sure, the PA is heavier and a beast to haul around, but once you're in the water the weight is a non-issue and it's the Cadillac of the kayak world. I have had no issues paddling the PA in the shallows, even with 20mph winds. Is it as easy to paddle as the kayaks that were made to be paddled? No, but it's still doable.
To each their own.
My first kayak was a Wilderness Ride 135, about 1/3 the cost of a new PA. It got the job done just as well as the PA, but did not have the comfort of the PA. Sure, the PA is heavier and a beast to haul around, but once you're in the water the weight is a non-issue and it's the Cadillac of the kayak world. I have had no issues paddling the PA in the shallows, even with 20mph winds. Is it as easy to paddle as the kayaks that were made to be paddled? No, but it's still doable.
To each their own.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:44 pm to Barf
I think people here are confusing recreational kayak fishing with tournament kayak fishing. A lot of these tournament guys came from boats and many still compete in boats. The kayak tourney's allow a great way of leveling the field and just compete in one more tourney. There are some big bucks in kayak fishing tournaments in Louisiana. This PP12 had a total payout over $18k ... 1st place took $3200 with 10.33lb slam, 2nd took $2500 with 9.84lbs and 3rd took $1500 with 9.76lbs. Big flounder wasnt even 2lbs. That "ease of winning" draws a lot of people. Just like regular boat tourney guys, a lot of kayak tournament guys are sponsored and get discounts/paid to use PA14, micro pole, 7" touch screen GPS, wear bright logoed shirts, etc.
For the recreational kayaker, stuff is much different. Its DIY PVC and milk crates. Even as a recreational guy though, it doesn't take long to go out in wind and watch Hobies and Slayers zip around you in wind/tide. In all honesty, most name brand kayaks are over $1000 and you can pick up used pedal kayak in $1500 range.
As for me in the tournament, all I did was find trout. Went everywhere for a red and could find one.
For the recreational kayaker, stuff is much different. Its DIY PVC and milk crates. Even as a recreational guy though, it doesn't take long to go out in wind and watch Hobies and Slayers zip around you in wind/tide. In all honesty, most name brand kayaks are over $1000 and you can pick up used pedal kayak in $1500 range.
As for me in the tournament, all I did was find trout. Went everywhere for a red and could find one.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:53 pm to AutoYes_Clown
What's great about the kayak tournaments is you can win just as easily with a $300 kayak. Being sponsored with a cool designed shirt doesn't put fish in the boat.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:56 pm to lsuson
I saw someone competing in a Sun Dolphin. I wonder how he did?
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:15 pm to lsuson
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Being sponsored with a cool designed shirt doesn't put fish in the boat
The fishing costumes are a bit ridiculous. I often wonder how many are sponsored and how many are "pro staff." I lurk the club website a little bit for ideas on where to take my bote board.
It's an interesting little group. Their message board if full of win. A bunch of them have their accolades documented in their sig lines, doesn't matter if they finished 4th place in 2012 it's going in the sig line.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:35 pm to Barf
All I know is the guy that won marsh madness and the guy that won paddlepalooza weren't prostaff guys. Hell only Lessard was the only one I recognized that placed in the trout division.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:52 pm to lsuson
It's no different than bass tourneys. Any given weekend during tournament season you can see a couple coonasses in an old aluminum boat or outdated rig placing in a tourney filled with sparkly $50k boats and guys wearing custom jerseys and shite.
Good equipment is sweet, but it only goes so far.
Good equipment is sweet, but it only goes so far.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:19 pm to Boats n Hose
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:54 pm to YOURADHERE
I really didnt think the weather was that bad. The worst part was the wind around 1pm got over 20mph. Good to see Paradise LA covering it. I denied Rispone with camera lol
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:13 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Depends on where you were. Where I was at, the weather was brutal. Not a long window to fish.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:30 pm to AutoYes_Clown
I didn't consider it bad but it certainly altered my plans. The worst of it really was about 3am-5am, bad lightning, heavy rain and real strong wind gust in Leeville. I didn't mind the rain, even when it did get heavy. The lightning that came back around 10am kept me pretty close to the bridge though in the event it got too close for comfort.
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