re: Jamies Winston = Future

By chance was anyone watching the game and noticed the relentless pressure that AU defense was putting on Winston....its hard to get in a rhythm when you don't have time to do shite....

Dude, winston is too stupid to run Payton's offense.

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GL in the NFL then lol

Anytime anyone got into the backfield he looked like a deer in headlights; almost as if he'd never experienced pressure before.

He couldn't stand in the pocket for shite, he kept under throwing/overthrowing guys because he was freaking out someone in a white jersey was approaching. He would take the sack, try to run and get gobbled up, or throw the ball early trying to avoid the impending hit and mess it up. (and get hit anyway)

The future of the NFL is guys who can work the pocket like a Russel Wilson/Brees/Rodgers, or guys who can get rid of the ball so quick, they help the oline like luck/manning/foles/brady. It still remains seen if a guy who has the speed to run to avoid pressure can last. I wouldnt say JW is any of these

That guy exhibited nothing other than the ability to make big plays with stud skill players and the perfect play development. Something that doesnt happen in the NFL as often

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You seem like a wise man

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Only person dick riding here is you on Winston. And from the responses there are more than a few people that agree with me and think you're the joke. Bro.....

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Because there are more SEC/LSU fans, duh kid.

I recognize talent when I see it. Which is more than I can say for you, apparently.
This guy blew out every team he played, and was put in a position that he never experienced before on the biggest stage (pressure, hits, game winning drive, etc.) and he won a NC in D1 CFB which we can all agree is the step directly under the NFL in the US.

He went back to the sideline, studied, and got better every drive. How could you possibly not want him as part of your franchise?! bye

He just can't construct a sentence in an interview, but maybe he was star struck still

Trust me if Brees could play forever, I'd never replace him, but time doesn't stop.

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mad

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Never that kid

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He's not Jamarcus Russell, Vince Young, or maybe Robert Griffin.

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I don't think he's like any of those guys. I'd say he looked like a spitting image of Josh Freeman last night. They should have a pocket statue competition. Both can tear a team up without pressure, both crumble completely when asked to stand in the pocket with pressure.

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He had a rough first half because the FSU gameplan did not anticipate Auburn creating so much pressure. Winston had no time to throw because his receivers were running slow developing routes down the field.

Switch to the second half, the gameplan changed. Quick hitches and other short routes to counteract the pass rush and expose Auburn's poor tackling defense. Smart coaching that gave Winston room to operate. In the end, he was clutch. The passes that were errant earlier were on point.

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So he is not at fault for anything, it's the coaching. Unfortunately the coaching will probably also suck on the team that takes him as a "Top Pick"

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The passes that were errant earlier were on point.

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You just said they changed the gameplan to different passes, so no; no they weren't. They were in fact different passes, ones that were based on quick checks and less actual decision making and pass ability on JW's part.



Last night was a clear as day example of a QB with a extreme weakness to pressure. He clearly might not have even ever experienced pressure before last night. Your argument should be that he is 20, and has all the tools to improve on that part of his game given practice.

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His best attributes as a passer all season have been his accuracy and football IQ, not a cannon arm or creativity outside of the pocket. He's absolutely a pro-style QB.

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Assailant: He overthrew people because he had pressure and couldnt make decisions in time.

Defender: His str's are accuracy and FB IQ.

Boy, I love forum arguments.

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He was rattled early, but his team put him in a position to win and he did.

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No one is arguing that his team isn't stacked full of people who can carry him. Top picks usually carry their team in big games.
















Carry on

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Because there are more SEC/LSU fans, duh kid.

I recognize talent when I see it. Which is more than I can say for you, apparently.
This guy blew out every team he played, and was put in a position that he never experienced before on the biggest stage (pressure, hits, game winning drive, etc.) and he won a NC in D1 CFB which we can all agree is the step directly under the NFL in the US.

He went back to the sideline, studied, and got better every drive. How could you possibly not want him as part of your franchise?! bye

He just can't construct a sentence in an interview, but maybe he was star struck still

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Yeah, they dominated a bad league, were called the most talented team since early 2000's Miami, and got outplayed by a not that great Auburn team that needed crazy endings to win a not as good as normal SEC.

This Auburn team was probably the worst SEC representative in this run, and they nearly beat the so called most talented team in a decade.


Watching the system they run, it's very similar to what Texas did with Vince Young and Colt McCoy. How did they work out?

As you can see by what you quoted, I didn't say Auburn wasn't good. But they aren't a great team. They needed miracles to beat Bama and Georgia. Their defense is a mess.

This was a down year for the SEC. As for Auburn beating the "two time champ", I think Bama lost a lot on defense, and they lost 3 of the 5 guys from their amazing offensive line. Also lost Lacy, who was the most talented back they had there in this run.

SEC was down this year. Doesn't mean they weren't still the best, just means they weren't as good as they usually are. No truly great teams this year. Seems like you were nitpicking. And Florida State has no relevance to what I said.

You say it worked better for Young, but I think McCoy set records for accuracy. And McCoy was also setup to compete for a championship before he got hurt in that game. Either way, the point was the offense Winston is running looks an awful lot like what Texas was doing, and that offense can make the qb look more accurate than they are by letting the wr's do all the work after the catch on short passes.

DO NOT WANT!!!


"Mobile athletic qb"