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re: Did the officials ever explain how they determined that was a UM first down?

Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:38 am to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:38 am to
uhhhhh no.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:53 am to
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The white hat doesn't get on his hands and knees and places a straight edge between the two or takes a vote...he looks, he rules. Like it or not; that's the explanation.


I've seen officials use a card or something similar to place between the ball and the stick.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 7:57 am to
What conference were these refs from?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:02 am to
From the pics posted, it looks like you have views from angles both slightly behind and slightly in front of the ball. Both show a gap. Also, there were coaches and players standing right next to it who were incredulous when he signaled first down because they could see it was short.

You seem like a douche calling people fricktards and stupid conspiracy theorists over this pretty obvious bad call.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 8:02 am
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 8:26 am to
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You seem like a douche calling people fricktards and stupid conspiracy theorists over this pretty obvious bad call.

Truth hurts....
You might have missed the plethora of idiot posts on the topic:
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The fix is in boys, the fix is in.

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IT STANDS!? THE FIX IS frickING IN...

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The fix is in!...

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WHAT THE FRICK. The fix is in on this one...

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holy shite the fix is in...

Unless and until someone can provide the correct camera angle that proves he was wrong; it's whiney BS. The guy with 30+ years experience stood over the ball and made his decision. Deal with it....
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:10 am to
There are multiple angles, not to mention Spurrier is looking at it from a post side angle. If there was such controversy why didn't he use a card like other Refs have in similar situations?

Quit spreading your BS around the thread, bad officiating is bad officiating. Just because they have an ignorant belief in their infallible judgement doesn't mean they are right.

My question is why didn't the replay officials just get it right and move the spot another two inches back rather than knowingly giving a bogus first down? Isn't it more important that they get the call right, rather than supporting a bad decision by the white hat. It reminds me of MLB when the guy is 4 feet off the bag and the Ump calls him out. We live in a digital age where we can prove you screwed up, so when you have the tools to fix it, fix it.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 9:13 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:18 am to
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Truth hurts....

The truth is it was a bad call and it was clear.

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You might have missed the plethora of idiot posts on the topic:

I might have, but I can imagine, it is a message board. Pretty typical.

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Unless and until someone can provide the correct camera angle that proves he was wrong
First, demanding a camera angle directly down the line is unrealistic and not necessary for proof. You have two angles posted on the first page. One from what appears to be slightly ahead of the ball and one from behind it. Both show a gap. The live coverage showed a gap. The people on the field directly next to it saw the gap.

This seems like just a contrarian shtick by you.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36302 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:49 am to
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This seems like just a contrarian shtick by you.

He's always been pro-refs, regardless of the situation. I don't know if he's a ref or something, but he's on "the refs can do no wrong" train.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72025 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 9:58 am to
Refs are basically cops. If they were given the chance, they would shoot your mascot in its cage and taze your QB.
Posted by bengalgrad1981
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2011
26 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:01 am to
YOur either a blind like Ray Charles or that ref is your long lost BF


he blew the call too
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:07 am to
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He's always been pro-refs, regardless of the situation. I don't know if he's a ref or something, but he's on "the refs can do no wrong" train.


He claims he's a ref.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12060 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:37 am to
It's because you don't have to get it to the stick, you just have to get the ball past the last chain, which they did. The connecting piece doesn't count.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:45 am to
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I don't know if he's a ref or something


he is, i think at the pop warner level though. srs
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33859 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:49 am to
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It's because you don't have to get it to the stick, you just have to get the ball past the last chain, which they did. The connecting piece doesn't count.



wrong.

at least I have never seen it that way before because I have seen them roll a ball sideways to see if it hits the stick...and use something like a credit card and slide it down the pole and see if it touches the ball

ETA: I thought the strangest part of the play was the ref never even got at an even angle or knelt down to get a close look

he first signaled standing up from behind the marker...then he quickly squatted down a little and re checked from once again a behind angle

even the other officials looked around confused like he should have checked closer



go to :45 seconds in this video if you haven't seen it...he barely even hovers over it from a backwards angle before calling it

LINK
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:57 am
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19486 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:59 am to
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he first signaled standing up from behind the marker...then he quickly squatted down a little and re checked from once again a behind angle


I like how the ref holding the stick gives it a little backwards nudge after all the hubbub.

"See, look... First down, just like he said."

That whole sequence was like catching a six year old in a lie.
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