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The closest pre-LSU Saban resume out there is...
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:12 pm
Matt Campbell.
Got to thinking about this when the only defense Tucker stans have for wanting to hire done-nothing Tucker is "it worked out last time we hired from MSU!"
No, I don't think Campbell is the next Saban, just thought the numbers were interesting. People tend to act like we knew Saban would be the GOAT when we hired him, but the reality is his resume looks a lot like other people that get pooped on around here.
Got to thinking about this when the only defense Tucker stans have for wanting to hire done-nothing Tucker is "it worked out last time we hired from MSU!"
No, I don't think Campbell is the next Saban, just thought the numbers were interesting. People tend to act like we knew Saban would be the GOAT when we hired him, but the reality is his resume looks a lot like other people that get pooped on around here.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 7:22 pm
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:17 pm to Ocardowin
Upvote for breaking out the spreadsheet for comparison purposes 
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:18 pm to Ocardowin
Consider adding pivot tables to the next iteration
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:19 pm to Ocardowin
Matt Campbell would obviously be a really solid hire
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:20 pm to Ocardowin
Coaching record is piece of the puzzle. I also look at positions coached, NFL experience, and prominent coaches someone’s coached under. Does does his coaching acumen benefit LSU? I say yes, he’s similar to Mario Cristobal in this respect.
For the record, I have Matt Campbell in my top 5 over Lane Kiffin and Billy Napier.
For the record, I have Matt Campbell in my top 5 over Lane Kiffin and Billy Napier.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:25 pm to Ocardowin
I would love a Matt Campbell hire. It would be a home run. I’m shocked he’s not being talked about that much.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:29 pm to Ocardowin
I see a spreadsheet, I upvote
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:00 pm to Ocardowin
Honestly looking at the coaches he has beaten just in the last 2 seasons makes him a very solid hire!
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:14 pm to Ocardowin
+10 for spreadsheet
-3 for no conditional formatting
+2 for effort
OP is alright by me
-3 for no conditional formatting
+2 for effort
OP is alright by me
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:21 pm to Ocardowin
Everyone wants to talk about saban’s 7 national championships and gloss over his 0-4 Michigan state bowl record.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:25 pm to Ocardowin
Campbell would likely be a solid hire
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:40 pm to Ocardowin
74-45 coaching record. Don’t want.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:31 pm to Ocardowin
Matt Campbell is a great coach for Iowa State (speaking as both an Iowa State and LSU Alum). He does what he does with underrated guys who he develops into some really fine ball players.
I don’t think his style would translate to the 4 and 5 star realm. He’s too much of a teacher and also discipline is huge, I mean huuuuuge with him.
He’s really set roots in Ames and I would be really surprised if he took another college job.
I don’t think his style would translate to the 4 and 5 star realm. He’s too much of a teacher and also discipline is huge, I mean huuuuuge with him.
He’s really set roots in Ames and I would be really surprised if he took another college job.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:33 pm to Ocardowin
Looks good. Let’s get him.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:03 pm to Ocardowin
It's interesting, but we're now going to hire a coach because his resume is similar to the pre-LSU resume of Saban? Couldn't we find a guy who had been a successful head coach at Texas A&M and Kentucky? You know, like Bear Bryant?
I'm kidding, at least partially. People keep saying Campbell would be a solid hire. Is that what we really want? A "solid" hire? I hope Woodward is after more than that.
I'm kidding, at least partially. People keep saying Campbell would be a solid hire. Is that what we really want? A "solid" hire? I hope Woodward is after more than that.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:09 pm to Ocardowin
I don’t know. To be a Nick Saban one has to be an a-hole. I don’t know if Matt Campbell is an a-hole.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:28 am to Ocardowin
In early 2000 I had a conversation with a guy who was from Michigan. He told me LSU just hired a great coach. I couldn’t even remember his name for a few days when discussing Saban. I knew we beat him in Shreveport but that was it. This guy went on and on about him though as if he knew him personally and to this day is the only person who really acted like he knew it was a great hire. But he told me then that Saban just needed an administration that would let him have some voice and a place he could recruit. He was right.
It’s a different world now. In 2000 you couldn’t even google that much information about Saban. There were dozens of message boards to read through so you really relied on the news and word of mouth. But there isn’t another Saban. There won’t be for a long time probably. There are a few good coaches out there we could get that will succeed but it takes an entire staff and culture to develop a real dynasty that our fans expect (unrealistic). Figuring out who the coordinators will be will mean a lot but recruiting record and talent development (NFL players) will go a long way. So that’s the data you should use to compare if any.
It’s a different world now. In 2000 you couldn’t even google that much information about Saban. There were dozens of message boards to read through so you really relied on the news and word of mouth. But there isn’t another Saban. There won’t be for a long time probably. There are a few good coaches out there we could get that will succeed but it takes an entire staff and culture to develop a real dynasty that our fans expect (unrealistic). Figuring out who the coordinators will be will mean a lot but recruiting record and talent development (NFL players) will go a long way. So that’s the data you should use to compare if any.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:10 am to Ocardowin
campbell obviously has a vision for the program and eveyrthing around it. would be a great hire.
personally i have him in the 2nd tier with napier, fleck, cristoball above aranda and kiffin but i know im in the minority there.
of course the majority think james franklin is better coach than Campbell and I think my thread about his stats without moorehead show that not to be the case.
personally i have him in the 2nd tier with napier, fleck, cristoball above aranda and kiffin but i know im in the minority there.
of course the majority think james franklin is better coach than Campbell and I think my thread about his stats without moorehead show that not to be the case.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:26 am to Ocardowin
Feel like we are due for a Matt Campbell day
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:31 am to Ocardowin
Given that background it is not much different than Doeren at NC State. He has roughly the same winning percentage. Did great in 2 years at N. Illinois. Only so so at NCState .
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