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Take the purple and gold glasses off: Is LSU a Top 5 Job in the Nation? Why/Why not?

Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 pm
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2595 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 pm
No one doubts that Louisiana is a talent rich state and makes for fertile recruiting grounds. Plus LSU doesn't have another serious in-state rival to compete. But cons are lack of administrative and school support. Baton Rouge is not necessarily "happening" town. Would you objectively consider LSU a top 5 job in college football?

My top 5:

1. Alabama - T-town sux but Saban has built it into a powerhouse and that legacy will last a while)
2. USC - Hollywood, Rose bowl, so-cal weather, incredible brand
3. Texas - Huge brand, almost unlimited $$ and resources
4. Notre Dame - history, brand, legacy,
5. LSU - only school that can say it's last 3 coaches have all won National Championships.

Other considerations for Top 5:
Oklahoma
Georgia
Texas A&M
Michigan
Ohio State
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13211 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:09 pm to
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2. USC - Hollywood, Rose bowl, so-cal weather, incredible brand

No sir.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:11 pm to
Realistically the top 5 are, in no order:

Ohio State
Texas
LSU
Alabama
Georgia

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:11 pm to
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USC - Hollywood, Rose bowl



Swing and a miss. USC does not play it’s home games in the Rose Bowl
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:12 pm to
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Take the purple and gold glasses off: Is LSU a Top 5 Job in the Nation? Why/Why not



This isn’t a purple and gold glasses thing.

Most CFB media consider LSU a top 5 job. It’s talked about very frequently
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72032 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:12 pm to
One of the most fertile recruiting states, no other big program in the state, SEC resources.

It's arguably the best job for those that want to win a national championship... something our last three head coaches have done.

No other program can say that in the BCS/CFP era.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98554 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:18 pm to
It's about two things: willingness to spend on salaries and facilities, and proximity to recruiting territory. By those criteria LSU is a top 5 job.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8851 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:25 pm to
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But cons are lack of administrative and school support.


You say this then list USC their admin doesn’t give a shite about sports. Their fan support also doesn’t even come close to LSU
Posted by onestonedpony
On the road to Zion
Member since Aug 2012
160 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:27 pm to
Top 10 for sure. 3 National titles and 4 SEC titles in the last 20 years. SEC TV $$$, Facilities, salaries, only P5 in fertile state, SEC West.

I would put UGA, FLA and of course our friends in Tuscaloosa in top 10. Aggie has the $$$ but no on field success.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28910 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:29 pm to
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Baton Rouge is not necessarily "happening" town.

We bust balls on BR a lot here, but the BR experienced by an LSU HC is a lot different than Plank Road. I’d imagine it’s everything one needs and enjoys being in that position without an excess of distractions.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57556 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:29 pm to
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2. USC - Hollywood, Rose bowl, so-cal weather, incredible brand


L.A. ain't what it used to be. Have you seen pictures of it lately? Besides, USC fans are only aware of the Trojans when they're contending for national titles. Until then, they don't really care.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66539 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:33 pm to
I have seen prominent college football analysts, not fans of LSU, say it is absolutely a top 5 job.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6730 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:36 pm to
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Texas - Huge brand, almost unlimited $$ and resources

Not anymore. Difficult environment having to deal with some of the most meddling boosters in the country running interference.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29879 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:41 pm to
Agree that Bama and Texas are jobs above LSU.

Ohio St, Texas A&M, Georgia, Oklahoma, Florida, are probably all on our level maybe slightly above or below.

USC and Notre Dame are both below the other teams listed. Along with Michigan.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11106 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:45 pm to
Top 5. Win a championship, recruiting hotbed, get paid.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28022 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:57 pm to
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Rose bowl,

No more important than the Fiesta Bowl, at this point
quote:

Baton Rouge is not necessarily "happening" town.

If a coach wins big, he creates the happenings in BR


1. Alabama - T-town. Top salary, best coach in history
2. tOSU - whoever goes there simply wins titles from the get go
3. LSU - every coach since 2000 has won it all. Isnt that why you go into coaching? Plus, no competition in-state for recruits
4. Oklahoma - similar to OSU mystique but in the Big 12. Moving to the SEC presents a new challenge
5. USC - celebrities, So. Cal., plus a weak conf


Others
Texas - Has simply fallen too hard since Mack Brown. Huge expectations, unlimited $$ and resources, and yet little success. Revolving door
Notre Dame & Michigan - great brands and history, but are very particular with hires. So not really a top destination for all coaches
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4252 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:01 pm to
For a coach that wants to build a dynasty, LSU is one of the only places with a real shot at doing it. Saban is 70 years old. The sun is getting low big guy...

A top level coach could come in here right now, spend three years working it up, Saban step out, and dominate the landscape for some time to come.

Personally, I think Woodward is going for Dabo. The dude could do it.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4629 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:04 pm to
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Would you objectively consider LSU a top 5 job in college football?


Yes

1) Talent rich state
2) Only power 5 in the state
3) SEC
4) Wiling to spend money on coaches and staff
5) Recent championships
6) Rabid fanbase and support


My top 5:
1) Texas
2) ND
3) Ohio State
4) LSU
5) UGA

Next 5: aTm, Clemson, Florida, Michigan, Oklahoma

I don't think the PAC12 has enough fan support for any of them to be in the top 10 aside from Oregon. I don't think Bama is a good job because you are in a crappy little city in a state with minimal high school talent and you have AU in state with you. Bama just looks attractive because Saban is the GOAT.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:25 pm to
You are thinking about the wrong things that make it a top 5 job.

When you say job, you are talking about attracting talented coaches.

Why would coaches want to coach here?

Coaches don't really give a frick if there is a beach close by when you can pay them elite money. What is so fricking special about Tuscaloosa? Nothing other than 1 thing.....

So you have to consider WHY a coach wants to come and what the coach can do.

What they cant do is build a dynasty just anywhere.

Simply put, LSU is such a spot among very few spots do do such.

This is why LSU is a top 5 spot. It has the unique intangibles to build what Saban is currently doing at Bama.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:28 pm
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8318 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:32 pm to
Each of our last three coaches won national championships, and two of them were incompetent. People can no longer argue that LSU is not one of the top jobs in college football.
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