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SI seems to be saying the players laid down last year over O's Trump remarks-is that true?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:02 am
I am no Trump fan but what O said about the POTUS after the team visit to the White House was simply polite and should not have offended anyone. SI seems to be saying the team racial strife of last summer was caused by those remarks. Woodward seemed to fall all over himself to accommodate the black players but the reporter says the strife created was the reason for the poor season.
How much should one pay to support a group of young men that lay down on the team over something like that? Clearly there is no gratitude for the opportunity to play for LSU.
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But the losses on the field are a direct result of the off-the-field problems, sources claim. The 5–5 season came only after a turbulent summer in Baton Rouge, where players, as they did at many other programs after a police officer murdered a Black Minneapolis man named George Floyd, staged a march across campus to protest social injustice and support the Black Lives Matter movement. At LSU, it took a different turn.
Two weeks before the march, Orgeron appeared on a Fox News segment where the host asked him repeated questions about the post-championship trip to the White House and his thoughts on then-President Donald Trump. He said he “loved” Trump and that “he’s doing a fantastic job.” Amid the pandemic and in an election year, it was a startling comment for the leader of a largely Black football team during one of the most divisive times in the country’s history.
Word about the television comments reached the team. One former player even weighed in on Twitter. Orgeron is a “great man,” but he is “blind to everything else,” defensive end K’Lavon Chaisson tweeted.
A childhood friend of Orgeron and a longtime LSU booster defends the coach.
“They asked him if Trump treated him good and he said yeah, Trump treated him good,” the man says. “I mean, what are you supposed to say?” The friend acknowledges that “it all went downhill from there.”
A couple of weeks later, LSU players staged their march. A former player’s parent described the march as more of a player “revolt” as anger within the team swelled over the coach’s comments and inaction. JaCoby Stevens, then a senior safety, told players inside the locker room that they would not play football for Orgeron until “we get this fixed,” a source recalls.
Without their coach, the players then marched to the school president’s office, where Orgeron later arrived, emerging from a Black SUV with Woodward and then holding a team meeting at the site. Despite the glowing public portrayal of the meeting, those who attended describe it differently. One source says it was Woodward’s first piece of real “evidence” that “the job is too big for [Orgeron].”
Nearly every person who spoke to SI described that day—Aug. 28, 2020—as the date in which the coach “lost” his football team. “They really f----- up all the social justice stuff last year,” says one former player. “There’s no getting the team back after that.”
“The players believed in their heart that this president [Trump] is causing harm to them and their culture,” says another source. “Whether you believe it or not, you can’t go on there.”
How much should one pay to support a group of young men that lay down on the team over something like that? Clearly there is no gratitude for the opportunity to play for LSU.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:04 am to I B Freeman
Sports Illustrated like most media in this country is just another arm of the democrat propaganda machine. Any chance they get to make “orange man bad” they run with it. The players couldn’t have been upset with him bringing his girlfriends to practice and their freaking kids right? It was cause O made a polite gesture towards POTUS.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:04 am to I B Freeman
Too much is being read into this. Nobody visits the white house and then says I hate the president. The players clearly had a good time regardless of political stance. It was just another narrative to divide.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:05 am to I B Freeman
When they say former player, do they mean former player from under O's regime here or just a former player in general. Because if I had to guess, former player would be Ryan Clark or Booger or some shite
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:06 am to I B Freeman
Literally nothing in that article says that.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:07 am to I B Freeman
Orgeron's comments of support for former President Donald Trump — whom his Black players believed espoused racist ideologies and theories — contributed to him losing his team. So too did his lack of support for players' demonstrations against racial inequality and injustice prior to the start of the 2020 season.
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:07 am to Gravitiger
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Nearly every person who spoke to SI described that day—Aug. 28, 2020—as the date in which the coach “lost” his football team. “They really f----- up all the social justice stuff last year,” says one former player. “There’s no getting the team back after that.”
Seems pretty clear.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 am to I B Freeman
One of the team leaders is a big Trump fan I know. He doesn’t hide it on social media in the past yet seems to get along just fine with everyone. I don’t think this is seriously a major issue.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 am to I B Freeman
SOME people are just too stupid to understand!
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:09 am to Geauxtigersgeaux12
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Too much is being read into this. Nobody visits the white house and then says I hate the president.
Not just that, but the comments were made in the context of the work being done to ensure a 2020 college football season happened.
The comments were taken out of context by people trying to sow division, and a lot of players are dumb so they ate it up.
I don't like Orgeron, but this was a stupid "controversy".
He handled other shite that built off of this extremely poorly though.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:11 am to I B Freeman
Going on foxnews was the real problem. Why do that? Ask yourself this, who do you think set that interview up for him? Someone who is probably his assistant that is also very conservative. Ultimately Derek was partially responsible for the fall……ironic
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:14 am to josh336
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Going on foxnews was the real problem. Why do that?
Fox News is the most watched cable news station. If the goal was to reach as many people as possible, that’s the platform you need.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:14 am to josh336
quote:it’s only a problem for losers who can’t handle the fact that someone might have a different political opinion. They were talking about a big college football issue
Going on foxnews was the real problem. Why do that? Ask yourself this, who do you think set that interview up for him? Someone who is probably his assistant that is also very conservative. Ultimately Derek was partially responsible for the fall……ironic
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:15 am to I B Freeman
Don’t think they laid down. The coaching just sucked and Orgeron was tone deaf & no one responded to him any more
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:16 am to I B Freeman
It's obviously a complicated relationship between the players and the coach. Last year was extremely stressful due to Covid for players in a contact sport like football. It would be a shame if the general high tension got expressed through seemingly small offenses, leading to a real breakdown of the relationship.
I hope that whatever it was, the team gets it behind them and moves forward to greatness.
I hope that whatever it was, the team gets it behind them and moves forward to greatness.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:18 am to I B Freeman
I would be surprised if these kids had a very strong opinion of Trump, outside of maybe “I don’t like him”
My political opinions in college were the equivalent of team sports, I wouldn’t put too much stock into anything SI is saying here
My political opinions in college were the equivalent of team sports, I wouldn’t put too much stock into anything SI is saying here
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:19 am to I B Freeman
The media wants to blame trump for everything
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:21 am to I B Freeman
Words are powerful, don't underestimate these kids awareness. They know the ugly side of the history of America and Trump's antics.
So Yes, he lost a lot of the black kids and some white kids as well for what my relative on the team has shared with our family. Though he likes Coach O, it rubbed him the wrong way. Being a-political or just shutting up would have just been better for Coach O in that situation.
Sorry down voters, but the truth hurts.
So Yes, he lost a lot of the black kids and some white kids as well for what my relative on the team has shared with our family. Though he likes Coach O, it rubbed him the wrong way. Being a-political or just shutting up would have just been better for Coach O in that situation.
Sorry down voters, but the truth hurts.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:21 am to josh336
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Going on foxnews was the real problem. Why do that? Ask yourself this, who do you think set that interview up for him? Someone who is probably his assistant that is also very conservative. Ultimately Derek was partially responsible for the fall……ironic
I don't know the answer, but wasn't the interview with Sandra Smith, former LSU T&F athlete? I.e. there was an LSU connection and an opportunity to pimp LSU to a nationwide audience. And you make a passing, innocuous statement about being treated well at the White House, and that the then President was doing good things trying to support college football. And a bunch of thin skinned, priveleged punks use that as motivation to shite on you? Says more about them than the coach, and I'm pretty agnostic about the whole situation.
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