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re: Pqeff: The Future of Refining Sand Wells

Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:20 am to
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Should I get out now or are we still fairly confident that this will work out?


My confidence level hasn't changed.

There's always been good bit of risk because we don't know who Viston's investors are but after 9 months Viston still hasn't waivered in their offer and with Petroteq management now fully onboard with the deal, things seem to be looking better than ever. The risk is still there, as it always is with OTC stocks, but evidence on the positive side has increased.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:27 am to
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after 9 months Viston still hasn't waivered in their offer and with Petroteq management now fully onboard with the deal, things seem to be looking better than ever. The risk is still there, as it always is with OTC stocks, but evidence on the positive side has increased.
While I don’t disagree with you, the market and price movement indicates otherwise for some reason that I’m clearly not seeing.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:40 am to
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While I don’t disagree with you, the market and price movement indicates otherwise for some reason that I’m clearly not seeing.


My guess is that it's a combination of people taking money out because they think they'll miss opportunities to buy other stocks cheaply while we wait and people who are concerned that CFIUS needing more time means that a moneyman behind the scenes at Viston is somebody who CFIUS could see as a national security risk - either Russian or Chinese.

There's no evidence for the latter one way or the other, and perhaps you could argue that Viston staying with the CFIUS process this long means they know there are not any national security dealbreakers but the origin of the money behind Viston is still a mystery.

It may be important to remember that CFIUS' general purpose is not to scuttle deals but to create plans with companies to wall off problematic investors and minimize risk of tech falling in foreign hands but Russian money behind the deal would obviously be another matter.

This is not a takeover bid by an established entity with a strong reputation, Viston is a new entity with essentially no reputation so there has always been skepticism around them.

This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:47 am to
This was the last update from viston:

"On July 7, 2022, Viston and the Offeror received a letter from the United States Department of the Treasury providing notice that CFIUS is undertaking an investigation of the Transactions pursuant to Section 721(b)(2) of the DPA and that the investigation would be completed no later than August 22, 2022.

Viston and the Offeror currently intend to extend the Offer to a date after August 22, 2022 in order to allow additional time for the satisfaction of all of the conditions to the Offer. Viston and the Offeror are currently evaluating the timing of such an extension and expect to issue a further update once Viston and the Offeror have determined a new expiry date for the Offer, if any."

The clearance could occur before 8/22/22 according to that language.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:32 pm to
Idk Pqeff really cheap assuming the deal goes through

I kinda want to full port considering everything else going to shite anyway
Posted by MrBobDobalina
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:30 pm to
Damn do I buy pqeff and lose all my money or sit on my hands and lose all my money
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:37 am to
I found a discord with smart people for Pqeff but y’all better not get me kicked out
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5594 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:41 am to
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I found a discord with smart people for Pqeff but y’all better not get me kicked out


Got a link? I promise I'll be cool and not tell anybody you sent me.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:45 am to
If you Google Pqeff discord one of the first results is a Twitter link with penny queen discord and they have a Pqeff board

They basically talk through the night it’s crazy

Also these people got millions with worse average than me

ETA: let me know if you think it’s a scam or whatever
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 7:46 am
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5594 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:45 am to
Thanks. I found it.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:49 am to
These people are contacting the people listed on the documents in like Switzerland or whatever to figure out if it’s real and I can’t even get somebody to ask the dude they went to high school with that works at standard lithium if it’s fake or not


ETA: Willie, n khan, Nicholaz are the good guys

Dysis and borg are the bad guys
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9884 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:44 am to
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Y’all think Etrade will ever assign a dollar value to tendered shares again?


Mine are now sitting at 0.16 / share.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5594 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:48 pm to
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These people are contacting the people listed on the documents in like Switzerland or whatever to figure out if it’s real and I can’t even get somebody to ask the dude they went to high school with that works at standard lithium if it’s fake or not

So far I've talked Petroteq's CFO, the management company that handles their office lease, the insurance company in Dusseldorf, Viston's Canadian representatives many times and a Turkish dentist in London. lol.

As a veteran of OTC craziness, I try to do as much research as possible and it's never dull.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:36 pm to
So wen tender go through?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:37 am to
Sometime between now and 8/22 if believe
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:31 pm to
Dang based

So you think it’s real or what?
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5594 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Dang based

So you think it’s real or what?


I sold a little last week to buy something else but I still have a good bit of money in it. I hate to give it the thumbs up or down because there's so much risk and I don't want to influence anybody to make a decision with their money based on my opinion. That's why I posted above about risk after I said I felt confident.

I'm hoping to follow up with some people next week so I'll post updated thoughts about that here if I learn anything interesting or if I say frick it and get out.

There's just so much stuff that's been thrown out there on Discord/Stocktwits/Reddit that it's tough to try to follow up as much as possible and hopefully confirm things or get answers to new questions and the speed of info flying around has accelerated in the last week.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:10 pm to
I still feel good and would buy more but vanguard won’t let me. But I have horrible luck so don’t take this as investing advice
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:58 am to
I’m just gonna ride this to 0 or 58 cents whatever

As a millennial my retirement plan is somewhere between mass grave in the fema camp or collapse of society
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53254 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:52 am to
Pqeff lit today
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