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Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:29 am to djmed
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2 year investigation and this is it.
All the while the streets of NYC are rampant with real crime that is a direct threat to people's safety.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:41 am to C
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They’re basically coming after him for business travel expenses. It’s bull shite if they think those are benefits.
Business expenses are tax deductions. People getting health care insurance paid for by their employer isn't a crime either.
1.7 million over 15 years for someone making 7 figures is like pocket lint. Company provided cars are rather common as are company provided business related accommodations, travel, health insurance, life insurance, phone and internet service, car services, expense paid conferences, etc., etc....
Even dems know this is just another BS political hit job.
I knew a lawyer who worked for NYC some years ago. There were lots of benefits, six weeks of paid vacation and a raft of holidays. Bet that added up to a boat load of non-taxed value. Bet the DA gets a boatload too.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 11:53 am to Auburn1968
Paid holidays and paid vacation is taxable. What are you talking about?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 12:02 pm to longwayfromLA
This is what you said:
Now you're saying this:
These are two completely different statements.
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How many guys are in jails right now because, and only because, they lived in stop and frisk neighborhoods and got caught with a dime bag?
Thousands
Now you're saying this:
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There are 40,000 people in jail on weed charges.
These are two completely different statements.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 12:19 pm to longwayfromLA
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Thousands
The vast majority of those imprisoned for possession are either repeat offenders or pled more serious charges down. It’s actually pretty rare for a first time possession offender to get appreciable sentences. And sentences for possession alone are pretty rare, too - in 2017, for example, only 92 of 20,000 federal drug-related sentences were for possession. And that’s not to mention the defendants history.
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You're not following. Justice in this country has always been political. After all, it is a political decision that we underfund tax enforcement for rich tax cheats so much that he was able to run this scam for so long. So why were you ok with it until yesterday?
Don’t play obtuse. You know what was meant by “political” - it has been mentioned in this thread a dozen times what is meant. So tell us about the history of American law enforcement/justice being political down party lines.
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Cheering? Now you're just making shite up. Re-read what I have written on this thread. I haven't come close to cheering anything. I noted that he committed garden variety income underreporting and underpayment and will probably pay a big fine or do a small bid. No big deal. I feel precisely the same way about this dude as I did about the NBA refs who went down for something similar and as I did when crooked Democrats commit crimes. I have said it is fascinating to see all of you guys in tears over some rich tax cheat all because he touched the hem of Trump's garment. Surely if the CFO of the Clinton foundation was paying himself off book, y'all would be equally forgiving...
You’re ignoring the point so let’s get right to it -
Are you troubled by the emerging dual justice system, one for conservatives and one for liberals?
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:28 pm to David_DJS
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The vast majority of those imprisoned for possession are either repeat offenders or pled more serious charges down. It’s actually pretty rare for a first time possession offender to get appreciable sentences. And sentences for possession alone are pretty rare, too - in 2017, for example, only 92 of 20,000 federal drug-related sentences were for possession. And that’s not to mention the defendants history.
I suppose if you had a bunch qualifiers that I didn't write (first time offender, federal) you can have it come out however you like....
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Don’t play obtuse. You know what was meant by “political” - it has been mentioned in this thread a dozen times what is meant.
Don't play obtuse. You know that I'm challenging your very limited definition of political.
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You’re ignoring the point so let’s get right to it -
Are you troubled by the emerging dual justice system, one for conservatives and one for liberals?
Didn't mean to ignore this. Let me direct. This is nonsense and not a thing that exists in the real world. On the other hand, there has been a clear difference int the justice system to which poor people are subject, irrespective of party and the one available to rich people, irrespective of party. Longtime tax cheat, Wiesselberg has long been the beneficiary of this phenomenon. But you have total indifference to this bifurcated justice model except when it impact Trump cronies. It what it is.
Posted on 7/3/21 at 8:54 pm to longwayfromLA
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I suppose if you had a bunch qualifiers that I didn't write (first time offender, federal) you can have it come out however you like....
This is what you wrote - "How many thousands of men are in jails right now because they lived in stop and frisk neighborhoods and got caught with a dime bag?"
You're now arguing that the point you made here was about repeat offenders, guys involved in distribution, some with violent crimes in their history?
Really? Because the way you came across was that you were implying there were big time thousands of guys in prison that did nothing but get caught with pot in stop/frisk neighborhoods.
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Didn't mean to ignore this. Let me direct. This is nonsense and not a thing that exists in the real world.
You believe all violent protesters, everybody that ever lies while testifying before congress, everybody that fails to register as a foreign agent - they're all being treated the exact same way by our justice system?
I think you know better.
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On the other hand, there has been a clear difference int the justice system to which poor people are subject, irrespective of party and the one available to rich people
Who is arguing this isn't true? I don't think a single person in this thread has argued this isn't true.
The justice system can be tilted in favor or rich people and the Left at the same time, you know this is possible, right?
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Longtime tax cheat, Wiesselberg has long been the beneficiary of this phenomenon. But you have total indifference to this bifurcated justice model except when it impact Trump cronies. It what it is.
And now you're being disingenuous. It wasn't more than a post or two ago that I clearly said that I could give a shite about this Wiesselberg character, and if he cheated on his taxes he deserves to get the fines/penalties he's going to get. That doesn't change the fact that Cyrus Vance Jr, a dyed in the wool Dem, didn't turn a simple tax matter into a ridiculous political dog & pony show. You even mentioned that loads of libs are excited by this "pelt" or however you termed it.
Now tell me how disappointed you are with how Hunter Biden, a rich white dude, son of the president no less - has apparently skated on everything from kidding porn to gun violations to financial corruption. Do you honestly believe that if there was all the evidence of that shite on Donald Trump Jr's laptop that he'd be scot free, teaching at Tulane and selling art to rich liberals?
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:01 pm to KiwiHead
quote:Technically, a corporation can hire your kids and they can pay their own tuition. It’s clearly a ruse but the current code makes it legal.
At worst he is guilty of not reporting 360K in tuition
Posted on 7/3/21 at 9:06 pm to CorchJay
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I’m fully MAGA and the way I see it anyone that isn’t is the enemy. They don’t believe in the same things I believe in and we can’t be compatible. They drew the line in the sand.
My sentiments exactly
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:41 am to TheBoo
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. A CFO should know this. Clearly he is not good CFO. This is good news for the Trump Org.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 12:41 am
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:50 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Play stupid games win stupid prizes. A CFO should know this. Clearly he is not good CFO. This is good news for the Trump Org.
Perhaps, but you can't deny that this is not the usual outcome for these kind of "crimes". We're talking a billion dollar company here, a few hundred thousand on glorified uber rides and rent payments tends to get missed. I guarantee you if you spent YEARS looking into any number of large corporations you would find the same thing and probably worse. How many times have we seen this exact strategy from corrupt prosecutors over the last 6 years?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:56 am to Doosh606
That's all they found that they could easily prove. Bet there was a crap load more that couldn't necessarily be proven or that they didn't find.
Just sad Trump didn't catch him and fire him earlier.
Just sad Trump didn't catch him and fire him earlier.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:59 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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That's all they found that they could easily prove. Bet there was a crap load more that couldn't necessarily be proven or that they didn't find.
Just sad Trump didn't catch him and fire him earlier.
Keep in mind they haven't proven a damn thing yet, this is just an indictment. Again, how many times have we seen this same thing play out only to see that it's not true recently? It's clearly political
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:07 am to Doosh606
Probably, but good could come out of it. Suppose it is true and you were CEO. Wouldn't you want the POS laundering money in your organization put in prison for a long time.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:12 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Probably, but good could come out of it. Suppose it is true and you were CEO. Wouldn't you want the POS laundering money in your organization put in prison for a long time.
If that specific scenario was happening then sure. But I trust prosecutors in NYC like I trust the guy begging on the corner when he says he just needs a few bucks for food. They have zero credibility and are actively lying to us because the big bad orange man is bad and mean and bad.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:31 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Abstract Queso Dip
Smells like an alter.
ANYWHO, the NY state AG, lelitia james, is a soros-backed lackey who is a huge dufus.
She campaigned on going after DJT and the loons in NY ate it up like candy.
She is angling for the NY governorship and she may well win.
Also in the mix is another lackey, cyrus vance, jr, son of war monger, cyrus vance(see Vietnam War and jimmy carter).
These two fools are awash in dirty money from the soros cabel.
The left is going down a very slippery road that just may have the tables turned on them.
As the old saying goes, 'Be careful what you wish for'.
The proverbial Rubicon has been crossed.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:40 am to Smoke7024
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Paid holidays and paid vacation is taxable. What are you talking about?
Yeah, you are right. It is just income. Health insurance, life insurance, expenses incurred serving the business are not taxable.
This is just another political hit job by the same people who brought us Trump/Russia, Trump/Ukraine, Trump/insurrection and let's not forget two scoops!
Posted on 7/4/21 at 11:47 am to Auburn1968
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Play stupid games win stupid prizes. A CFO should know this. Clearly he is not good CFO. This is good news for the Trump Org.
Read the tax returns and the laws of the state of NY ....Then get back to us after reading your last Dr Suess book....
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:26 pm to KiwiHead
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The other stuff is all about the Keough contributions. If that money went in to a self funded retirement plan, what's the big deal?
My guess is they are challenging his eligibility to participate.
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