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re: When did Camps, Travel Ball, AAU bc more important than High School??

Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20147 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:08 am to
Impressive!
Posted by GeauxRN
Member since Jan 2021
109 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:09 am to
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I’m sure in your mind you are gods gift to all the lil baws getting their rings in tournament after a travel ball tournament


It doesn’t work that way in 14u. In younger ages yes and I dislike it but I don’t make the rules.

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My point is; when did it become paramount that unless you are a young athlete’s parent, and have the time/monetary means to “PAY” for their child to get noticed, that it has become the standard?

Colleges don’t have huge recruiting budgets, especially volleyball. They can go recruit at an area AAU or 14u tournament or any big name event where they know there will be 200 + kids to choose from. Why spend the money to go to one individual high school when they can go to one event and notice several kids.

Also, I answered this, but I have 2 younger nephews who play volleyball. Their travel team coach is better than most area coaches. So for them it was simple and they get the coaching they need to develop.
Posted by Superbonics
Member since Oct 2015
392 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:11 am to
How much does it cost a player to be in the LA Knights program? And how many 15U teams do you currently field?
Posted by markx
Member since Sep 2020
167 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:21 am to
at camps you can see a wr that may not have a qb in high school,the faulks of the world culd actually work at rb at camp,warrick dunn was a qb in high school.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:59 am to
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I’m a better 14u travel baseball coach than most of the area high school coaches.


Says every travel ball coaching Dad. It’s easy to win with the 1st team all district high school team in your lineup.
Posted by GeauxRN
Member since Jan 2021
109 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:07 am to
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It’s easy to win with the 1st team all district high school team in your lineup


Is it? So when we go play in texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and they have 1st team all state kids on their teams, it’s easy to win?

Interesting dynamic. If you don’t know what you’re talking about (which you don’t) please stay out of conversations.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 9:10 am
Posted by N2LSU2
Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
99 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:08 am to
One of the reasons we chose travel for our son is because the days of Fathers, and kids in general, getting out in the yard and playing ball, is pretty much none existent, therefore, the skill level of rec ball is nowhere near where it was in the late 90s. Kids these days can barely get the ball to a throwing partner but they can crush in Fortnite. Little League died when parents started pushing devices to babysit their kids. Not saying travel kids don't game but their sport is very much important to them.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:49 am to
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Is it? So when we go play in texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and they have 1st team all state kids on their teams, it’s easy to win?

Interesting dynamic. If you don’t know what you’re talking about (which you don’t) please stay out of conversations.


Odds are, you’re a former travel ball player. Walked on at a college...rode the pine for a year...maybe two before being shown the door. Now you have a career in banking or insurance. You’ve been coaching your sons team...the same 7-9 players since they were 7. Once he graduates, you won’t coach again..unless you have a younger son.

But you’ve beat some other travel ball dads from Texas or georgia...so you a good coach
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48085 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:55 am to
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You’ve been coaching your sons team...the same 7-9 players since they were 7
it’s funny how all those kids become first team all district high school players
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18512 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:37 am to
I have a buddy who has 2 pre teen girls in travel softball. They hosted a tournament last Saturday. He was in charge of cooking for the concessions. He cooked chicken nuggets and fries from 7 am until 11 pm. Didn’t get home until after midnight. I asked him why the travel ball was so important. He said college scouts don’t go to high schools any longer. He is hoping to get his daughters college payment d for through softball.

They travel every other weekend. I told him if you would put the money your spending in a 529 you could probably have a good chunk for college. He asked me what was a 529.
Posted by GeauxRN
Member since Jan 2021
109 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:37 am to
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you’re a former travel ball player

Correct!
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Walked on at a college...rode the pine for a year...maybe two before being shown the door

Incorrect! Took a scholarship to play at Houston. Rode the bench freshman year and half of sophomore year, started as a junior and senior and wasn’t good enough to get drafted!
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Now you have a career in banking or insurance

Incorrect!
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You’ve been coaching your sons team...the same 7-9 players since they were 7. Once he graduates, you won’t coach again..unless you have a younger son

Incorrect! I don’t have kids

1/4 isn’t bad. I like my kids hitting at least .300 and above so you have some work to do if you want playing time
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8736 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Louisiana Knights


The Hitmen would smoke y’all
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3030 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:21 pm to
Dixie Youth was the major youth baseball league in my area. In around 2005, there was a big push for Dixie to improve their game play for ages 9-12. For example, taking leads, having pickoffs, big barrel bats, etc. Dixie said no to this, and the first big wave of players in my area left for full time travel ball.
Even still rec ball was competitive as there were only about 3 local travel teams. As time went on, more people left and rec ball got to the point where it was a waste of time for some kids because the talent wasn't there. It is sad because some of my favorite childhood memories were traveling for all star tournaments
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:28 pm to
The downfall of HS sports in favor of travel ball/AAU IMO is the cause of alot of problems kids have these days. It's no longer about team and all about me. AAU is literally the worst. Guys running up and down the court not playing any defense trying to score as much as they can to get offers and post about it on twitter.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9204 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:40 pm to
Better competition across the board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263068 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Dixie Youth was the major youth baseball league in my area. In around 2005, there was a big push for Dixie to improve their game play for ages 9-12. For example, taking leads, having pickoffs, big barrel bats, etc. Dixie said no to this, and the first big wave of players in my area left for full time travel ball.


When I played Dixie ball, there was no little league, just YMCA, Dixie and Church Leagues. You would get 30-50 kids trying out for a Dixie team. It was very high quality.

Posted by SpillwayRoyalty
Member since Nov 2019
531 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 3:38 pm to
Better "talent"

Worse development

Hit or miss coaching

A massive lack of team work, character building, and leadership.
Posted by nomar
Member since Feb 2018
105 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:55 pm to
College coaches can go to the games of AAU because the season for AAU mostly in the summer time. The players also get to play with better players. Players consider AAU ball a place that will force development of their game because they will not be bigger, faster, stronger, and more explosive athlete than everyone else like they would be in high school.
Posted by geaux4theship
Member since Jan 2020
69 posts
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:56 pm to
Higher level of skill and greater competition 1-5
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10482 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:50 am to
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My point is; when did it become paramount that unless you are a young athlete’s parent, and have the time/monetary means to “PAY” for their child to get noticed, that it has become the standard?

When colleges figured out it is way more efficient and effective to recruit that way.
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