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re: When did Camps, Travel Ball, AAU bc more important than High School??
Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:58 am to lsufan1971
Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:58 am to lsufan1971
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He said college scouts don’t go to high schools any longer. He is hoping to get his daughters college payment d for through softball.
this shite is just mindblowing to me
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I told him if you would put the money your spending in a 529 you could probably have a good chunk for college. He asked me what was a 529.
yeah
if you hired a private coding tutor and had your kids spend a quarter of the time coding, you'd be about a million times better off
i'm about to start having kids and this toxic belief system run by lower-level thinkers makes me wonder if team sports is even a +EV endeavor anymore, and i highly value team sports for character building and personal development in kids
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:00 am to Gravitiger
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When colleges figured out it is way more efficient and effective to recruit that way.
the problem (for parents/kids) is that what, 1 in 100 will get a scholarship? 1 in 10,000 will get a full ride? 1 in 10M will make the pros?
trying to argue "college" as a reason for this insanity is one of the dumbest things i've eve read on a message board
Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't disagree the logic from the parents' end is dumb, but that's still the logic. OP was literally asking about AAU being necessary for his 11-year-old daughter to "get noticed." Whom do you think they are trying to get noticed by?
the problem (for parents/kids) is that what, 1 in 100 will get a scholarship? 1 in 10,000 will get a full ride? 1 in 10M will make the pros?
trying to argue "college" as a reason for this insanity is one of the dumbest things i've eve read on a message board
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 7:19 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:20 am to redfishfan
I agreee, it is crazy how kids go play AAU and post scoring 30 plus points in this game and that game. Then when the get on their high school team that can't score 10 a game. If you ever watch one of these games it is like watching the NBA all star game, were no defense or sets are run. Guys are given tons of space to basically come down and score at will. If you are not playing on the EYBL, Adidas circuit, or under armour circuit really don't know how much attention you will be getting.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
I've got three kids: one graduated from college, one in college, and one in middle school.
In my location, one problem is that parents have their kids playing one sport, year round, by the time they are in middle school.
My oldest played basketball. AAU was required just to stay competitive with her middle school and high school peers. If she wanted high school team minutes, she had to play year round. Her peers also got private coaching, and that meant that I had to pay for private coaching. She was all-county and got some college offers, but she wanted to go to UGA, and they didn't offer.
At no point was I under the illusion that AAU was a method to fund college. I have relatives who played college ball at schools they would not have chosen to attend otherwise. It doesn't make sense to me to attend a college you wouldn't want to attend except that you get to play ball.
My oldest just wanted to develop and get better, so that's why she played AAU. She wanted to be a team leader, and she didn't want her peers to pass her up.
I do think that AAU got her the college offers. Every one of her recruiters had seen her play AAU, but they never said a word about watching her play high school ball.
In my location, one problem is that parents have their kids playing one sport, year round, by the time they are in middle school.
My oldest played basketball. AAU was required just to stay competitive with her middle school and high school peers. If she wanted high school team minutes, she had to play year round. Her peers also got private coaching, and that meant that I had to pay for private coaching. She was all-county and got some college offers, but she wanted to go to UGA, and they didn't offer.
At no point was I under the illusion that AAU was a method to fund college. I have relatives who played college ball at schools they would not have chosen to attend otherwise. It doesn't make sense to me to attend a college you wouldn't want to attend except that you get to play ball.
My oldest just wanted to develop and get better, so that's why she played AAU. She wanted to be a team leader, and she didn't want her peers to pass her up.
I do think that AAU got her the college offers. Every one of her recruiters had seen her play AAU, but they never said a word about watching her play high school ball.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:08 am to Salviati
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At no point was I under the illusion that AAU was a method to fund college.
I'm of the opposite opinion, as I started an AAU basketball program 20 years ago and is still current. Being from a very small town, with only a local newspaper, the kids weren't getting any exposure. I knew they had the talent to compete. Yet, all you read about were the players from New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Shreveport area.
Well my emphasis were getting them into college because I knew their financial situation, mostly single parent homes. It's all about exposure for me, recently I coached a team of 12 players, they have since graduated, ALL 12 received college scholarships. All received offers from Division 1 level to NAIA level. All has since graduated from college. So AAU can be used as a tool.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:03 am to biohzrd
High school athletic politics is my guess... when your mom blows the coach or your dad is a big booster it’s easier to get a spot on the starting line up.
Many of my friends were all stars on travel ball and actually got looks from college even though they didn’t play much at highschool. One of them didn’t even play highschool ball any more and only did travel ball.
Many of my friends were all stars on travel ball and actually got looks from college even though they didn’t play much at highschool. One of them didn’t even play highschool ball any more and only did travel ball.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:47 pm to TigerCrude
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High school athletic politics is my guess... when your mom blows the coach or your dad is a big booster it’s easier to get a spot on the starting line up.
Rarely is this ever the case. It's just an excuse people use to explain why their kid wasn't good enough. Sure there are some examples here and there but I'd bet 1 out of 100 of these "the coach played favorites because" are true.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:14 am to biohzrd
My wife was a high school swimmer in the late 70’s. Back then HS was sort of a joke; it was all about AAU. And her HS, Grace King, was winning State most years.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:14 am to Salviati
let me also clarify that if you're going to invest that kind of money/time into sports as an avenue for potential scholarships, then only do this with female athletes because they're much more likely to get full rides. investing $200k+ of money/time and converting that into 1/3 of a scholarship to ULL seems insane to me.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:16 am to redfishfan
You sound like the mom or the dad who is a booster.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:01 am to biohzrd
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When I came up in the early 90s it was all about high school sports, and little league allstar tournaments took the stage. When/why did travel ball, camps, private leagues, and the likes bc so much more important then what high school sports were able to mean?
There are many reasons, starting with the escalating cost of maintaining play grounds. Growing up all the playgrounds that hosted bantam sports in my area were privately owned and the parish had nothing to do with the. Now the government started building sports complexes, some are doing well while others not so much. When I lived in Ponchatoula the Parish faculties and coaches were pretty decent.
While the better ones in the River Parishes were all privately own and run. They do not discriminate who can play but it cost a good bit to join. They all all hurting rom public sports and travel ball teams. Some accepted travel ball tournaments as a way to make ends meet while others have resisted.
As far as high school sports I go to many games but mostly 2A and they seem to be holding up pretty well. The HS coaches I know help travel ball as well as rec ball teams.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:59 pm to Bristol Tiger
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You sound like the mom or the dad who is a booster.
My kid is 3 so not even playing sports yet. Try again.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 11:59 pm to CypressTrout10
I grew up playing Dixie, and we were very competitive. It’s sucks the way that travel ball has siphoned off much of the talent. Parents think their kids have to play travel ball to have a chance at a college scholarship (hint: odds are they won’t get a scholarship to any school worth going to).
I hate the way that travel ball includes shopping your kid around to find the best team they can make, and if they can find a better team next season, they move on. It’s such a transactional approach to youth sports. Dixie and Little League have barriers and are tied to the community. They represent something besides themselves. Travel ball pisses me off because the talented rec league kids feel like they can’t play for their local team without stunting their baseball growth because travel ball teams decided to take some of the better players. I wish there were a way to unwind this.
I hate the way that travel ball includes shopping your kid around to find the best team they can make, and if they can find a better team next season, they move on. It’s such a transactional approach to youth sports. Dixie and Little League have barriers and are tied to the community. They represent something besides themselves. Travel ball pisses me off because the talented rec league kids feel like they can’t play for their local team without stunting their baseball growth because travel ball teams decided to take some of the better players. I wish there were a way to unwind this.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:15 pm to Gravitiger
Travel ball is for the elite crowd to try to put average players in a position to succeed against kids w/God given talent. I am talking about baseball , as I have a grandchild playing, and has played for years ,travel baseball. Having little exposure to travel hoops ( 3 times) , it just looks like a place where kinds can play out of a team spirit , and showcase their own talents. I suppose that's the whole exposure. It just takes $$$$$.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:52 pm to cheeser
quote:it’s a funnel to certain high school programs, which is where those people really want to win.
Travel ball is for the elite crowd to try to put average players in a position to succeed against kids w/God given talent.
Hell, John Curtis’s Twitter hashtag is now #WhereTheBestGetBetter
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