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Posted on 8/27/08 at 6:53 pm to danfraz
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Mandatory evac was not until Sunday morning but hes right about Friday night, it was headed to fla
Sure. On Saturday, our governor declared a state of emergency for our state. Yet, the major of New Orleans waited 2 days to enforce a mandatory evacuation. I also find it hard to believe that the people in New Orleans didn't know that a hurricane was coming until late Saturday or early Sunday. Do they not have tvs? Did N.O. not have the internet back then?
Everyone knew. Everyone had time. They just wouldn't enforce the plan that was in place. It's a shame, because it was a good plan.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 6:59 pm to hashtag
shite the models moved pointing right at NOLA on Friday at 2pm. I remember evacuating on Sat morning at 10am and the interstate had ZERO traffic. Ray Ray didnt say shite about the storm until Sat Afternoon. Blanco was even late for her 12pm conference by 1 hour. Wasnt much urgency.. Jindal calling for an state of emergency is just to get feds moving.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:06 pm to Catman88
Jindal might be the first gov in history to call an state of emergency for a storm that is 4.5 days away and barely 45mph. I think MS has just as much to worry about and they havent followed suit.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:13 pm to Catman88
Public officials will overreact to this big-time to avoid the "Blanco Effect." Hurricanes have been threatening south Louisiana since the state was created.
Hopefully this thing will continue to be weak, and/or change course- otherwise our officials will have the southeast corner of this state empty by Saturday morning.
Hopefully this thing will continue to be weak, and/or change course- otherwise our officials will have the southeast corner of this state empty by Saturday morning.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:13 pm to Catman88
have you seen the MS gulf coast? It looks like Katrina hit just a few months ago. There's hardly anyone there. Evacuating the MS Gulf Coast and SE La are two different things.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:15 pm to hashtag
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Oh, one other thing. There weren't over 1 million people in New Orleans. There weren't even over 600,000. In fact, according to the 2000 United States Census, the population of New Orleans was 484,674.
The population of New Orleans was just under 500,000 like you quoted, but the metro area did have over 1 million people at the time. Included in this are the westbank and northshore (Slidell area).
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:17 pm to 2arms2legsTIGER
Uh yea.. I worked on the gulf coast during katrina at Stennis where it made landfall. The coast is far from deserted.. I was half joking about Jindal he is really just doing this to get contracts for buses etc. Just incase. I do think its a bit early. Friday makes alot more sense than Wed.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:20 pm to medtiger
Oh no no no no !!! Don't you know we have been told the illegals have rebuilt the Ms. Gulf Coast!!! Hell we are back to pre Katrina pop. 
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Freaking IDIOTS!!! Can't lie worth a shite.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Freaking IDIOTS!!! Can't lie worth a shite.Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:23 pm to Catman88
Catman, I spend half my week in Biloxi. I see a fraction of the amount of people along the coast in MS as there were prior to Katrina. Stennis is freakin before bay st. louis for christ sake. Evacuating a peninsula (which is essentially what SE La is) with more people is definitely a different situation than evacuating the sparsely populated MS coast. I won't argue you weather knowledge but you are off point on the differences b/w MS and SE La.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:24 pm to Catman88
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Jindal might be the first gov in history to call an state of emergency for a storm that is 4.5 days away and barely 45mph.
It's 45 mph right now but that's b/c it weakened when it went over Haiti. When it hits the jacuzzi that is the Gulf of Mexico it's not going to be sitting pretty at 45mph when it's traveling over 85-87 degree water. I will put any amount of money on that.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:28 pm to 2arms2legsTIGER
Dude I wasnt saying that MS needed to be on alert.. Just that LA didnt need to be in an emergency situation. NOLA is the last place to evac according to the state plan anyway. If the storm were 50 hours out then ok.. But we are looking at over 72 hours. I think Jindal making the call is only about getting things moving.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:29 pm to Catman88
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Dude I wasnt saying that MS needed to be on alert.. Just that LA didnt need to be in an emergency situation. NOLA is the last place to evac according to the state plan anyway. If the storm were 50 hours out then ok.. But we are looking at over 72 hours. I think Jindal making the call is only about getting things moving.
you do realize that the state plan requires 72 hours to fully implement, right?
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:30 pm to foreverLSU
I know that.. I was making a joke seriously everyone needs to keep an eye out on the storm and get prepared to leave but now is not the time to panic or even think it will hit louisiana. The models are not in an accurate state yet. When late friday comes then we will have some decent idea.Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:33 pm to hashtag
LINK??
* Beginning 50 hours in advance, evacuations south of New Orleans would be ordered, public offices and schools would be closed, but traffic would remain along normal routes.
* At 40 hours, evacuation south of the Mississippi River, including the West Bank of New Orleans, would be ordered.
* In Phase 3, if the storm is a category 3 storm or higher, contraflow would be triggered.
* Beginning 50 hours in advance, evacuations south of New Orleans would be ordered, public offices and schools would be closed, but traffic would remain along normal routes.
* At 40 hours, evacuation south of the Mississippi River, including the West Bank of New Orleans, would be ordered.
* In Phase 3, if the storm is a category 3 storm or higher, contraflow would be triggered.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:33 pm to Catman88
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I know that.. I was making a joke seriously everyone needs to keep an eye out on the storm and get prepared to leave but now is not the time to panic or even think it will hit louisiana. The models are not in an accurate state yet. When late friday comes then we will have some decent idea.
while i agree we shouldn't panic. Leadership doesn't have the luxury of pretending that this might not hit. People don't take you serious when you screw around and act like it isn't a big deal.
Being overly cautious is the way to go. Waiting until Friday may be too late for some people. They might feel like they don't have time. They might become anxious. They might feel like they can't get to their uncle's house 18 hours away, so they'll just stay home...etc.etc.etc.
We are finally going about it the right way. Let's hope we continue this trend for the next few days.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:36 pm to Catman88
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* Beginning 50 hours in advance, evacuations south of New Orleans would be ordered, public offices and schools would be closed, but traffic would remain along normal routes.
* At 40 hours, evacuation south of the Mississippi River, including the West Bank of New Orleans, would be ordered.
* In Phase 3, if the storm is a category 3 storm or higher, contraflow would be triggered.
nice copy and paste job. I'll post the whole thing so everyone can see what you left out. Oh, and I'll give them the link too.
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Louisiana Develops Improved Hurricane Evacuation Plan
April 13, 2005 -- According to today's FEMA National Situation Update, a new hurricane evacuation plan was demanded by Governor Kathleen Blanco after Hurricane Ivan when a traffic snarl that stretched from New Orleans to Baton Rouge lasted upward of 12 hours. The plan was put together by state police and the DOTD and includes evacuation routes for not only New Orleans and points south, but Lake Charles, Lafayette and the Houma-Thibodaux area. Under the new plan preparing for evacuations would begin at least 72 hours in advance. One of the problems during Ivan was the time required to get barriers, people and other material in place to allow lane reversal on highways.
Beginning 50 hours in advance, evacuations south of New Orleans would be ordered, public offices and schools would be closed, but traffic would remain along normal routes.
At 40 hours, evacuation south of the Mississippi River, including the West Bank of New Orleans, would be ordered.
In Phase 3, if the storm is a category 3 storm or higher, contraflow would be triggered.
Problems that slowed traffic last time ran the gamut from signs that were too hard to read, forcing drivers to slow excessively, to breakdowns. Under the new system tow trucks will be stationed along the routes and new signs will be installed. The new hurricane evacuation plan also requires a number of new ramps to be added or widened, new crossovers and other items at a cost of $7.5 million.
LINK
so, yes, the plan takes 72 hours to enforce because it includes setting up the road ways and everything so that contraband can begin 50 hours in advance. so, please shut up.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:39 pm to hashtag
Hey I like having Jindal behind the 8 ball much more.. I just think this move is a bit early. People are certainly watching it more than ever. Katrina woke people up. When I was programming ocean models in 2003 I promise you nobody knew what the hell it was. Today everyone knows a link to at least 4 sites showing computer models. Problem is that people overreact on long range forcasting not understanding that the models are not pinpoint at all that far out.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:40 pm to Catman88
Mountains of Haiti has really kicked this storms arse today. It looks really weak right now.
Hopefully it goes over Southeast Cuba like a couple of the models suggest....that would end the whole debate.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:40 pm to hashtag
Best thing about this storm is that Mayor Ray is at the Demo Convention and out of the way. BJ is in full control. BJ will make things happen. Better to be safe than sorry this time around.
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