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re: People who can't manage finances or spending. How does this happen?

Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22751 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:04 am to
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but they actually spent ELEVEN GRAND A MONTH.


Is that bad?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98550 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:04 am to
A girl I went to HS with has her own speech therapy business. She makes about 250K. Her husband is a nationally known radio voiceover talent and makes about the same. They live paycheck to paycheck. She has at least 300 pairs of shoes and drives an $80k BMW. He never met a boat he didn't like. He currently has four sitting in his driveway. They take two or three vacations a year. So the money goes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:05 am to
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I have no clue what I spend a month. I put aside a percentage of my check and just use my debit card.

Rarely check my balance tbh.

that isn't the scenario in OP, though

that's like a 2/10 on the "irresponsibility" scale

these people are juggling like 3rd and 4th degree transfers of their debts
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:06 am to
I could bury myself in crippling unaffordable debt right now before lunch with no effort.

Its easier than being responsible.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:06 am to
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it doesn't require a formal education process to understand you make x a month and shouldn't spend twice that



A legit half a year course would do wonders.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35556 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:08 am to
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It’s so easy to be financially responsible. I don’t get why such a small % of Americans manage to do it though.
Well, most can't manage a healthy weight either and that's even more important than financial health. Most of us are irrational creatures of comfort.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17441 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:09 am to
The worst part is people don't think it's their fault. I remember reading this article about this girl bitching about her debt problems. She went to an expensive out of state school for undergrad and took out crazy student loans instead of going to a state college "because it was her dream school" and then couldn't find a good enough job with her useless degree that she sold her soul for. Then she got married and they bought a house they couldn't really afford but they bought it anyway "because it was her dream home" and now a couple years later they cant pay the bills and are swimming in debt and about to have their home foreclosed on. And she had the fricking nerve in this article to blame the government and loan companies for her problems.

People are increasingly pushing the blame for their own dumb decisions onto others as if they're entitled to what they want simply because they want it. And the fricked up thing is other people agree with them and give them validation for said stupid decisions. So then the narrative becomes they were taken advantage of or being bullied by others when in actuality they're just dumb as bricks with financial decisions and don't want to admit they fricked up, and they expect someone else to clean up the mess they made
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27551 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:09 am to
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one couple last night said they got a card with a $5k limit and it was maxed out before they got the initial bill



If it has zero percent... I do this. To farm points through my own business.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55967 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:09 am to
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Because its effortless to spend more than you make.
I just couldn’t live with that stress and anxiety. It really boggles my mind that people can live paycheck to paycheck and not be doing everything they can to get out of that lifestyle.

I’m almost jealous, in a way
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10706 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:10 am to
Thousand dollar millionaires live on every corner.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
18018 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:10 am to
I hate to blame banks because that would remove personal responsibility from the individual which is a problem itself.

The banks extend credit WAY too easily imo.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:11 am to
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and took out crazy student loans instead of going to a state college "because it was her dream school" and then couldn't find a good enough job with her useless degree that she sold her soul for. T

i watched a video yesterday with one of these who was in incredible SL debt that had gone up like 25-30% in a few years b/c she won't make any payments. her regrets? not applying to an even more expensive "dream" school for grad school
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:13 am to
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People want to live for today.


Yep...

Turn on the news, you see that tomorrow is not a given...

The older you get, the more you want to save...so you can retire comfortably...

I struggle with the reality that so many people are smarter than I with investing...

My clients are rich... most of their money likely comes from stocks....

Some have 7 figure incomes...which is not the norm...nonetheless I am around it everyday....feeling like a failure in comparison...

I envy their freedom
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70966 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:14 am to
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The one legit takeaway from this show that I found myself agreeing with fully was all the "stuff" these people have. The host lady will go into their house and it's always filled with "stuff". I have been getting rid of a lot of old stuff the past couple months. Made a couple trips to donate to goodwill and filled up the trash can a few weeks.


Just looking at things I use every day, one thing I will effort to never spend another dime on is coffee cups. We've gotten rid of so many that we got for free, and we still have a ton. Don't buy coffee cups.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6484 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:15 am to
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7928 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:17 am to
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one couple last night said they got a card with a $5k limit and it was maxed out before they got the initial bill


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425080 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:18 am to
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If it has zero percent... I do this. To farm points through my own business.

i put almost all my spending on CCs and pay it off every month, too. these people...aren't
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10549 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:18 am to
she's sharing a lot of details of her life with you.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
5884 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:19 am to
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People who can't manage finances or spending.


You mean women?
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4807 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:19 am to
shite is expensive. The idea is easy but implementing it is not.
Just a family with an average house note, health insurance, water, electricity, gas, phone, and average vehicle note without factoring medical bills or groceries is expensive. It adds up quickly when you sit down and track it all. Then you have house and car maintenance cause shite always breaks.
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