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re: Kevin Clinesmith – Criminal Information….
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:17 pm to BRgetthenet
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:17 pm to BRgetthenet
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I’m gonna root for whoever is hotter. My gut tells me it’s you, but my brain can’t decide.
I'm almost certainly hotter, but you'd have to switch teams to have an interest in me. Not too many chicks are 6'3" 225.
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Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:18 pm to BoarEd
I need to look for a chain of command graph to see where Joe Pientka is in the pecking order.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:19 pm to lsuguy84
I doubt if any of them are.
In the last 24 hours I have heard of three more people in potential trouble that, if true, spells big trouble for all of them, imo.
We've got the head of the FBI's counter Intel division, the Dearlove dude that is former MI6 (big fricking deal here considering this guy is yet another foreign spook), and CIA director Brennan on the chopping block apparently. Not to mention deputy FBI director McCabe.
These guys are all key pieces in the entire affair and if they go down I have to believe they're going after all of them.
In the last 24 hours I have heard of three more people in potential trouble that, if true, spells big trouble for all of them, imo.
We've got the head of the FBI's counter Intel division, the Dearlove dude that is former MI6 (big fricking deal here considering this guy is yet another foreign spook), and CIA director Brennan on the chopping block apparently. Not to mention deputy FBI director McCabe.
These guys are all key pieces in the entire affair and if they go down I have to believe they're going after all of them.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:20 pm to BoarEd
5 eyes is about to get hammered. I read somewhere Britain and Australia have been assisting with the investigation.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:26 pm to lsuguy84
but how much will our govt instituitions allow to come out about our 5eye friends w/o 'damaging national security'
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:26 pm to KCT
Here's a 1-minute video that cuts to the chase. Watch 8t and ask yourself, "Does it make any sense whatsoever that Kevin Clinesmith (and his lawyer) would agree to pleading guilty, only to not cooperate and make Clinesmith vulnerable to the high-end of the 5-year sentence?" I mean, if they really didn't cut a deal then why wouldn't Clinesmith's lawyer simply advise Clinesmith to fight this?
The original spin regarding this thread was incredibly misleading.
YT
The original spin regarding this thread was incredibly misleading.
YT
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:36 pm to cajunangelle
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so charges weren't or haven't been filed is what 'criminal information' is? but they are ready to roll into a GJ, correct?
the bill of information is just the charging document. Typically, as a case progresses (they have enough to present to GJ and indict) the DOJ will reach out to a co-conspirator, not necessarily a "target" but someone with some culpability (Clinesmith) and make a trade offer. They make a trade for a piece of info that can help connect a dot or even rule something or someone out, and in exchange they keep any conspiracy charge out (once they make that hook, you can get some real time)..
This is step 1..NOBODY..knows what happens from here, there will be more but I wouldnt speculate on who will be charged. There will be more for certain, I wouldnt get my hopes up about anyone above Priestrap or Baker. I have no doubt they have enough to charge Comey today, I dont think they do that, they wont be able to put the genie back in the lamp if they did and there's no telling how bad that could get for lots of "prominant R's and D's and those swampy maggots wont allow it.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:40 pm to lsuguy84
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5 eyes is about to get hammered. I read somewhere Britain and Australia have been assisting with the investigation.
Good point.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:42 pm to Megasaurus
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:44 pm to KCT
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"Does it make any sense whatsoever that Kevin Clinesmith (and his lawyer) would agree to pleading guilty, only to not cooperate and make Clinesmith vulnerable to the high-end of the 5-year sentence?" I mean, if they really didn't cut a deal then why wouldn't Clinesmith's lawyer simply advise Clinesmith to fight this?
makes perfect sense..one of the target's lawyers reached out to Clinesmith's lawyer and reminded him of some higher level slimey shite that Clinesmith has in his closet that he didnt tell the Govt. when the deal was reached which would negate the deal and piss the DOJ off..if I had to guess
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:44 pm to Megasaurus
quote:Agreed. It is all purposely convoluted.
This is step 1..NOBODY..knows what happens from here, there will be more but I wouldnt speculate on who will be charged. There will be more for certain, I wouldnt get my hopes up about anyone above Priestrap or Baker. I have no doubt they have enough to charge Comey today, I dont think they do that, they wont be able to put the genie back in the lamp if they did and there's no telling how bad that could get for lots of "prominant R's and D's and those swampy maggots wont allow it.
A lot was right before our eyes in the Honest Bob report.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:52 pm to cajunangelle
Here's something else that's really interesting.
we found out from Lindsey Graham this week that Priestab was the one who briefed the senate intel committee on the dossier and lied.
well, There were also 4 other people in the room with him to give the briefing...lol, so they were also in on the BS.
want to guess who those other 4 were...?
1. Strzok
2. Page
3. Clinesmith
4. ?
we found out from Lindsey Graham this week that Priestab was the one who briefed the senate intel committee on the dossier and lied.
well, There were also 4 other people in the room with him to give the briefing...lol, so they were also in on the BS.
want to guess who those other 4 were...?
1. Strzok
2. Page
3. Clinesmith
4. ?
Posted on 8/15/20 at 12:56 pm to cajunangelle
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I wouldnt get my hopes up about anyone above Priestrap or Baker. I have no doubt they have enough to charge Comey today,
It just takes 1 at the bottom to start squealing....take the evidence they have (which they do) to the person they squealed on....show them + who squealed....THEN IT BEGINS.
Pienka and Priestab stayed on their jobs for a while....all the rest have been gone for a while. Very low likelyhood that they weren't squealing.....
I really think McCabe is the key to the full unravelling...i.e. when they start telling the truth.....he won't go down alone....he has a wife and kids too.
Same with Bruce Ohr....he has to save his wife.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:10 pm to boomtown143
I searched McCabe doing a CYA if he goes down they all go down and got a trove of info. LINK
Why Fire Dana Boente?
Flynn Case Update: DOJ Provides Defense With Handwritten Notes from Tashina Guahar Meeting January 25th – And Dana Boente Notes Which Explain the Reason He Was Retired…
Agent Strzok CYA Memo? – Strzok Notes Indicate Obama White House Involvement in Targeting Michael Flynn…
Tashina Guahar ruling the Trump DOJ is what is earth shattering; that I think Sundance knew was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Why Fire Dana Boente?
Flynn Case Update: DOJ Provides Defense With Handwritten Notes from Tashina Guahar Meeting January 25th – And Dana Boente Notes Which Explain the Reason He Was Retired…
Agent Strzok CYA Memo? – Strzok Notes Indicate Obama White House Involvement in Targeting Michael Flynn…
Tashina Guahar ruling the Trump DOJ is what is earth shattering; that I think Sundance knew was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:36 pm to KCT
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Does it make any sense whatsoever that Kevin Clinesmith (and his lawyer) would agree to pleading guilty, only to not cooperate and make Clinesmith vulnerable to the high-end of the 5-year sentence?"
Nah. He's definitely cooperating, imo. They could have hit him with a 20 year destruction of evidence charge, but only hit him with falsifying statements or whatever, which carries a max of 5.
I had hoped none of these guys were getting deals, but it looks like Clinesmith did.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:54 pm to BoarEd
It helps if you think about it like this, what we find out about now was actually done IRL months ago
Durham started May 2019, they pretty much knew everything that happened but they needed proof
Start with the emails and paperwork at the bottom and work your way up
IG report comes out and Clinesmith is the only person named in the IG’s report that committed a criminal offense spelled out in the IG report
Clinesmith was cooked a long time ago, we just have that step in the process confirmed now
Barr referencing GJ problems means they had reached a level where the investigation targets refused to cooperate and are fighting the DOJ. So it will go to indictments if the GJ agrees
The second set of Strzok’s notes no doubt came from him, so assume that the levels below McCabe turned and McCabe up are fighting back
Remember the DOJ has unredacted info, just the unredacted email distributions are a gold mine of who did and knew what and when
Durham started May 2019, they pretty much knew everything that happened but they needed proof
Start with the emails and paperwork at the bottom and work your way up
IG report comes out and Clinesmith is the only person named in the IG’s report that committed a criminal offense spelled out in the IG report
Clinesmith was cooked a long time ago, we just have that step in the process confirmed now
Barr referencing GJ problems means they had reached a level where the investigation targets refused to cooperate and are fighting the DOJ. So it will go to indictments if the GJ agrees
The second set of Strzok’s notes no doubt came from him, so assume that the levels below McCabe turned and McCabe up are fighting back
Remember the DOJ has unredacted info, just the unredacted email distributions are a gold mine of who did and knew what and when
Posted on 8/15/20 at 1:58 pm to davyjones
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But just because he claims it was a mistake doesn't necessarily mean the government believes that, and that the govt has the goods to prove it.
Then you don’t accept a plea.
This sounds like a dead end. Hope I’m wrong.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 2:34 pm to WPBTiger
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With an Information, the defendant agrees to allow the prosecutor to file the charges this way, waiver of indictment. Felonies need to go before a grand jury unless the defendant agrees to the filing of a Bill of Information, usually done when cooperating. All misdemeanors can be filed by a Bill of Information without a grand jury.
Thank WPBTiger. All I want to know is that he'll be waiting for Kamala to give him back his voting rights.
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