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5-year Average Stars Recruiting Rankings (all 119 teams)

Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:20 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:20 am
Below are the average star recruiting rankings for the last 5 years consolidated (2004 recruiting class through 2008 recruiting class). If a player was in the 2004 recruiting class, barring any odd circumstances, and the player redshirted in the 2004 season he would be a senior in 2008. Me and a buddy keep these rolling five-year rankings just to kind of take stock of where we're at in terms of talent (at least according to stars) on roster relative to the other teams. Last year we were #2 in these rankings, but we've swapped spots with Florida this year. Alabama has also hopped Auburn with their strong 2008 class.

Other teams that we may be interested in are underlined.

(for each year, it is the school's average stars for that recruiting class ... then that team's 5 years are totaled and divided by 5 to get the average that determines the rankings in this list)

Rank School 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 Total Average
1 USC 4.05 3.95 3.96 4.22 3.89 20.07 4.014
2 Florida 3.52 3.39 3.89 3.89 3.82 18.51 3.702
3 LSU 3.54 3.69 3.64 3.88 3.58 18.33 3.666
4 Oklahoma 3.72 3.63 3.54 3.38 3.81 18.08 3.616
5 Texas 3.5 3.6 3.6 3.79 3.55 18.04 3.608
6 Georgia 3.57 3.58 3.64 3.48 3.67 17.94 3.588
7 Ohio State 3.24 3.5 3.6 3.8 3.79 17.93 3.586
8 Michigan 3.59 3.48 3.63 3.4 3.67 17.77 3.554
9 Florida State 3.59 3.82 3.68 3.2 3.33 17.62 3.524
10 Miami-FL 3.36 3.82 3.36 3.21 3.33 17.08 3.416
11 Notre Dame 2.83 3 3.46 3.72 3.96 16.97 3.394
12 Tennessee 3.25 3.63 3.09 3.63 3.06 16.66 3.332
13 Alabama 2.89 3.03 3.61 3.28 3.72 16.53 3.306
14 Penn State 3 3.05 3.63 3.14 3 15.82 3.164
15 Auburn 2.67 3.19 3.52 3.37 3.03 15.78 3.156
16 California 3 3.38 3.3 3 3.05 15.73 3.146
17 Nebraska 2.83 3.33 3.27 3.33 2.96 15.72 3.144
18 UCLA 2.62 3 3.23 3.27 3.52 15.64 3.128
19 Clemson 2.38 3.08 3.4 3.22 3.42 15.5 3.1
20 South Carolina 2.61 2.96 3.08 3.42 3.18 15.25 3.05
21 Texas A&M 2.93 3.23 2.96 2.89 3.17 15.18 3.036
22 Maryland 3 3.08 3 2.85 3.11 15.04 3.008
23 Oregon 3 2.87 2.67 3.24 3.25 15.03 3.006
24 Virginia Tech 2.74 3.08 3 2.73 3.1 14.65 2.93
25 Arizona 2.44 3.17 3.28 2.72 3 14.61 2.922
26 Oklahoma State 2.68 2.76 3.03 3.04 3.04 14.55 2.91
27 Arkansas 2.67 3 2.96 2.93 2.88 14.44 2.888
28 Arizona State 2.64 2.82 3.04 2.63 3.15 14.28 2.856
29 Ole Miss 2.71 2.56 3.17 3.09 2.71 14.24 2.848
30 North Carolina 2.58 2.5 2.93 3 3.16 14.17 2.834
31 Boston College 2.8 2.81 2.85 2.83 2.83 14.12 2.824
32 Virginia 2.74 3.14 2.67 3.04 2.5 14.09 2.818
33 Pittsburgh 2.25 2.54 3.08 3.04 3.16 14.07 2.814
34 Iowa 2.6 3.22 2.7 2.95 2.54 14.01 2.802
35 Texas Tech 2.69 2.67 2.88 2.73 3 13.97 2.794
36 Missouri 2.58 2.83 2.63 2.89 3 13.93 2.786
37 Michigan State 2.93 2.75 2.84 2.7 2.71 13.93 2.786
38 Washington 2.78 2.54 2.82 2.81 2.92 13.87 2.774
39 Kansas State 2.81 2.9 2.52 2.67 2.94 13.84 2.768
40 Wisconsin 2.48 2.74 2.7 3.06 2.83 13.81 2.762
41 Illinois 2.29 2.57 2.89 3 3 13.75 2.75
42 Colorado 2.53 2.68 2.61 2.68 3.24 13.74 2.748
43 NC State 2.89 2.83 2.45 2.64 2.88 13.69 2.738
44 Kansas 2.42 2.65 2.72 2.57 3.1 13.46 2.692
45 Louisville 2.13 2.59 2.92 3.06 2.59 13.29 2.658
46 Purdue 2.7 3 2.38 2.68 2.48 13.24 2.648
47 Georgia Tech 2.22 2.37 2.69 3.3 2.64 13.22 2.644
48 Stanford 2.58 2.81 2.44 2.63 2.71 13.17 2.634
49 Oregon State 2.68 2.6 2.6 2.51 2.72 13.11 2.622
50 West Virginia 2.41 2.48 2.63 2.96 2.63 13.11 2.622
51 Minnesota 2.25 2.67 2.33 2.46 3.07 12.78 2.556
52 Rutgers 2.33 2.32 2.52 2.83 2.65 12.65 2.53
53 Miss State 2.23 2.56 2.67 2.62 2.56 12.64 2.528
54 Washington State 2.61 2.5 2.57 2.44 2.23 12.35 2.47
55 TCU 2.38 2.38 2.56 2.54 2.4 12.26 2.452
56 Iowa State 2.43 2.52 2.5 2.44 2.33 12.22 2.444
57 South Florida 2.46 2.43 2.36 2.48 2.46 12.19 2.438
58 Syracuse 2.22 2.4 2.43 2.56 2.54 12.15 2.43
59 Kentucky 2.44 2.15 2.53 2.31 2.5 11.93 2.386
60 Northwestern 2.13 2.5 2.24 2.74 2.3 11.91 2.382
61 Utah 2.24 2.29 2.17 2.32 2.73 11.75 2.35
62 Southern Miss 2.22 2.3 2.29 2.16 2.78 11.75 2.35
63 BYU 2.3 2.31 2.12 2.46 2.52 11.71 2.342
64 San Diego St 2.39 2.56 2.28 2.27 2.19 11.69 2.338
65 Wake Forest 2.19 2.26 2.4 2.3 2.47 11.62 2.324
66 Baylor 2.05 2.35 2.34 2.34 2.45 11.53 2.306
67 UCF 2.05 2.16 2.29 2.31 2.61 11.42 2.284
68 Duke 2.08 2.26 2.38 2.19 2.41 11.32 2.264
69 Fresno State 2 2.16 2.35 2.27 2.41 11.19 2.238
70 Boise State 2.07 2.44 2.17 2.24 2.26 11.18 2.236
71 Vandy 2.11 2.08 2.27 2.5 2.19 11.15 2.23
72 Cincinnati 2.06 2.04 2.44 2.26 2.25 11.05 2.21
73 Indiana 2.24 2.13 2.25 2.15 2.26 11.03 2.206
74 UAB 2.14 2.19 2.54 2.04 2.08 10.99 2.198
75 Hawaii 2 2.21 2 2.42 2.3 10.93 2.186
76 Memphis 2.21 2.06 2.12 2.22 2.29 10.9 2.18
77 Marshall 2.09 2.05 2.13 2.15 2.38 10.8 2.16
78 Tulsa 2.19 2.32 2.06 1.87 2.3 10.74 2.148
79 UNLV 2.09 2.17 2.15 2.32 2 10.73 2.146
80 SMU 2.05 2.23 2.13 2.17 2.14 10.72 2.144
81 Troy 2.04 2.09 2.12 2.22 2.24 10.71 2.142
82 Akron 2 2.17 2.17 2.19 2.18 10.71 2.142
83 Conneticut 2.04 2.27 1.96 2.24 2.14 10.65 2.13
84 Wyoming 2.05 2.11 2.05 2.29 2.14 10.64 2.128
85 LA Tech 2.03 2.04 2.11 2.27 2.19 10.64 2.128
86 North Texas 2.11 2.04 2.12 2.06 2.3 10.63 2.126
87 East Carolina 2.18 2 2.15 2.15 2.14 10.62 2.124
88 UTEP 2 2.1 2.1 2.26 2.12 10.58 2.116
89 Mid Tenn State 2.17 2.08 2 2 2.29 10.54 2.108
90 Colorado State 2.15 2.11 2.13 1.96 2.16 10.51 2.102
91 Houston 2.08 2.08 2.04 2.14 2.16 10.5 2.1
92 Toledo 2 2.09 1.95 2.32 2.13 10.49 2.098
93 New Mexico 2.04 2.12 2.04 2 2.18 10.38 2.076
94 Kent State 2 2.08 2 2.08 2.18 10.34 2.068
95 Utah State 2.17 2 2.04 2 2.1 10.31 2.062
96 Rice 2 2.05 2.06 2.13 2.06 10.3 2.06
97 Western Michigan 2.05 2.08 2 2.04 2.12 10.29 2.058
98 Northern Illinois 2.05 2.17 2.06 2 2 10.28 2.056
99 LA Monroe 2 2 2.13 2 2.14 10.27 2.054
100 Arkansas St 2.04 2.09 2.05 2.04 2.04 10.26 2.052
101 LA Lafayette 2 2.13 2.05 2.06 2 10.24 2.048
102 Miami-OH 1.96 2 2.05 2.17 2.06 10.24 2.048
103 San Jose St 2 2.08 2.04 2.05 2.06 10.23 2.046
104 Ball State 2 2 2.13 2 2.1 10.23 2.046
105 Idaho 2 2 2.05 2.05 2.1 10.2 2.04
106 Temple 2.03 2.03 1.89 2.13 2.08 10.16 2.032
107 Nevada 2 2.05 1.96 2 2.14 10.15 2.03
108 Tulane 2.17 2.05 2 1.92 2 10.14 2.028
109 Bowling Green 2.06 2 1.96 2.1 2 10.12 2.024
110 Eastern Michigan 2 2 2 2.04 2.04 10.08 2.016
111 Ohio 2 2 1.95 1.91 2.2 10.06 2.012
112 Central Michigan 2 2.04 2 1.94 2.05 10.03 2.006
113 Buffalo 2 2 2.13 1.9 2 10.03 2.006
114 New Mexico State 2 2 1.76 2.1 2 9.86 1.972
115 Air Force 1.67 1.5 1.65 1.73 1.93 8.48 1.696
116 Navy 2 2 1.18 1.33 1.75 8.26 1.652
117 Army 1.33 2 1.05 1.65 2 8.03 1.606
118 Illinois State 1 1.33 1.33 1 0.94 5.6 1.12
119 Chattanooga 2.33 0.67 0.67 0.44 0 4.11 0.822
Rank School 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 Total Average
This post was edited on 7/28/08 at 12:22 pm
Posted by BayouSupaChamp
Ball, LA
Member since Jan 2008
820 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:24 am to
I guess it goes without saying that WV does the most with what they got




And Great post
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19674 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:24 am to
6 SEC teams in the top 15...about what I would have guessed.

USC has a five year average of over 4 stars...wow!! I am still looking for Stanford on that list.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14197 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:26 am to
I'm really glad you posted this. I've been considering doing something similar for SEC schools. Now I don't have to. Thanks.
Posted by DVtiger
Alsatian Valley
Member since Aug 2007
663 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:28 am to
quote:

2004: 2nd ranked class, 3 5*, 12 4*, 10 3* = 3.72

Something is off.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26297 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:28 am to
quote:

13 Alabama 2.89 3.03 3.61 3.28 3.72 16.53 3.306


quote:

99 LA Monroe 2 2 2.13 2 2.14 10.27 2.054


Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14197 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:33 am to
I wonder how much it would change if you calculated by adding total stars for each year and dividing by total recruits over the five years, thus giving equal value to each recruit. Using the current methodology, recruits in smaller classes receive more weighting than recruits in larger classes.

Not complaining, just a point of discussion.

Great work.
Posted by 12inches
Marisa Miller's dreams
Member since Apr 2007
4693 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:33 am to
this shows USC has really under-achieved for the insane amount of tallent they have.

Also with the exception of Georgia all of the top ten in recruiting have a national title (or 2 for LSU)in the past 10 years

1 USC NC 2004
2 Florida NC 2006
3 LSU NC 2003 & 2007 (soon to be 2008)
4 Oklahoma NC 2000
5 Texas NC 2005
6 Georgia NC Who knows
7 Ohio State NC 2002
8 Michigan NC 1998
9 Florida State NC 1999
10 Miami NC 2001
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29343 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

65 Wake Forest 2.19 2.26 2.4 2.3 2.47 11.62 2.324


Just imagine what Jim Grobe could do if he was able to recruit at Wake.
Posted by Santa Clause
123 Fake Street
Member since Apr 2004
11450 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 12:18 pm to
USC has really dominated
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 4:22 pm to
Comprehension of Rivals’ star rating system is beyond most of their clueless heads.

They are too eager to refute something they don't even understand--typical geek mentality.
Posted by geauxldeneye
bossier city, louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
227 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 7:51 pm to
Off the top O' my head, it seems like FSU and Miami are wasting a lot of talent.
Posted by GeauxGus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
5219 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by lsu1agn
Member since Feb 2007
44 posts
Posted on 7/28/08 at 11:09 pm to
Sincere thanks for taking the time and effort for doing this list, but I must say that the overall average is mathematically meaningless. As BhamTigah pointed out, to get the accurate number representing the average number of stars, you'll have to total up the stars and divide by the number of players. Calculating the average the way you did, while serving as a good approximation, does not result in the correct value for the overall average.
Posted by Tiger40
Member since Oct 2007
27 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 11:46 am to
Interesting stat: Schools that played for the BCS title:

Top 10 recruiting schools: 80%

Second 10 recruiting schools: 20% (UThug and Nebraska)

Schools 21-30: 10% (VA Tech)

31-119: 0%

Of course this validates the star system. Beyond that, it's intuitive that better recruits=better results, but the separation between the top 10 and anyone else is eye-opening. Also, Fla State fans should be livid; no one does less with more.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26297 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 3:04 pm to
Corey did some further analysis trends on this and I've copied and pasted some of the following. Sorry about the no tabs, but this is how it copied and pasted into here and I don't have the time to go through it and change it.

If you're able to figure out what is going on, though, it is very interesting stuff. The most interesting thing that I see is that the dropoff from the #1 team in each conference to the #2 team in each conference. In the SEC and the Big12 and the Big10, the difference is basically nothing. In the pac10 (USC and Cal), the difference is nearly an entire star! ... was also surprised that the ACC is in second place behind the SEC in terms of conference average stars. Big10 only leads the BigEast.



Conference 2 Year Trend Biggest Up Biggest Down
Big East 93 rankings up Cincinnati (+41) Rutgers (-1)
Pac 10 22 rankings up Oregon (+13) NONE
Big 10 8 rankings up Wisconsin (+7) Indiana (-11)
SEC 7 rankings up Florida (+7) Miss State (-12)
Big 12 3 rankings up Oklahoma St (+9) Colorado (-8)
ACC 27 rankings down North Carolina (+8) Virginia (-13)
All Conferences Cincinnati (+41) San Jose St (-26)

Conference Avg. 08 Ranking Top Half Team Rankings Diff from #1 to #2 (in conf) Conf avg of #2, 3, and 4
SEC 25.8 (Top 6) 3.46 0.036 (FLA-LSU) 3.529 (LSU, UGA, TEN)
ACC 27.7 (Top 6) 3.14 0.108 (FSU-MIA) 3.175 (MIA, CLEM, MARY)
Pac 10 30 (Top 5) 3.24 0.868 (USC-CAL) 3.093 (CAL, UCLA, ORE)
Big 12 32.6 (Top 6) 3.18 0.008 (OU-TEX) 3.263 (TEX, NEB, A&M)
Big 10 37.4 (Top 6) 3.09 0.042 (OSU-MICH) 3.173 (MICH, PSU, IOWA)
Big East 56.3 (Top 4) 2.66 0.156 (PIT-LVILLE) 2.603 (LVILLE, WV, RUT)

The SEC's 6th ranked team has a higher average of stars than the Pac 10's 2nd ranked team.
The SEC's 9th ranked team has a higher average of stars than the Big East 1st place team.
The Pac 10 has the highest ranked last place team (Washington State at #54) of the BCS conferences.
The Big East has the lowest ranked team (Conneticut #83) of the BCS conferences.
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