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re: Grenell Declassed!

Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain the unmasking and what it means?


These “officials” have access to intelligence reports potentially containing SIGINT but if a US Citizen is in the transcript their identity is masked unless said official requests them to be unmasked and their identity known (they have to justify this)

There is a vetting process for each unmasking request.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:17 pm to
just an FYI...it is not illegal to unmask individuals. it is very illegal to leak that information.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33696 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Declassing the info makes it easier to be used in a criminal trial and the court of public opinion.



So, you're telling me this is about to get fun?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
77587 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

just an FYI...it is not illegal to unmask individuals. it is very illegal to leak that information.


Is it illegal to knowingly base the declass on inmproperly predicated FISA warrants?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:24 pm to
We all know it was Susan Rice. There will be no other big fish in this.

"Rice’s unmasking of the intelligence report names gave dozens of people direct access to unmasked intelligence"

Rogers said it only goes to the person requesting. Which would make it easier to identfy a leaker actually?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:24 pm to
good question. i don't know. considering everything involved in this is based on illegally obtained FISA warrants...it all could be illegal. that's going down a rabbit hole.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
47098 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain the unmasking and what it means?

A president does not know everyone, say the Russian ambassador, that a person, say Michael Flynn, speaks to during the course of a day.

Unless someone (?) makes him aware.

And then someone (?) makes the media aware.

Why would these instances happen?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8066 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

just an FYI...it is not illegal to unmask individuals. it is very illegal to leak that information.


It is if the unmasking is not properly vetted or does not follow the proper channels.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
47098 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

So, you're telling me this is about to get fun?

It would name names, raise questions as to who knew what and when did they know it, and raise the temperature in the room, for sure.

A lot of people don’t want any part of that.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32884 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Rogers said it only goes to the person requesting. Which would make it easier to identfy a leaker actually?


If it’s Rice and Obama clearly knew the contents of the Kisliyak call (per the Jan 5 Oval meeting)then Rice was briefing Obama on the campaign/transition communications which hits at the heart of the matter that Obama was directing this
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

I have ropes.

I have a horses and a tree!
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
47098 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:30 pm to
And there is this interesting text by Lisa Page to Peter Strzok on September 2, 2016...


“potus wants to know everything we are doing.”
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32884 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:30 pm to
Also Rice is under oath saying she only EVER discussed unmasking with her intel briefer. No one else
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
97506 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:31 pm to
So what does this declass mean in "Its happening" terms? Other than just knowing, what's that next step here?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
77587 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

So what does this declass mean in "Its happening" terms? Other than just knowing, what's that next step here?




People are on record about the unmasking, this may prove they're lying.

If they lied and/or acted illegally, then they could face serious federal charges.

Will they be the fall guy or will they flip on higher level Obama Administration officials?
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 9:36 pm
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5412 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

I have serious doubts Barr plays this card.

You think that public display of carrying the briefcase, the leaks to various media about new info going public, and news of the POTUS briefing was not priming the pump for an actual public disclosure? You think that would be allowed to happen if they were not already aware of what Barr was intending to do?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
39040 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:36 pm to
I voted Michael Kalagias, libertarian, over Northwest Arkansas RINO Steve Wommack last election

I'll do it again this time
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

If it’s Rice and Obama clearly knew the contents of the Kisliyak call (per the Jan 5 Oval meeting)then Rice was briefing Obama on the campaign/transition communications which hits at the heart of the matter that Obama was directing this


The reason she unmasked is because the Obama administration felt misled by the United Arab Emirates, which had failed to mention that Zayed was coming to the United States. They wanted to know exactly what he was up to. That’s when they realized Zayed was being used as a back channel by the incoming Trump Administration. It’s totally understandable as several Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee have admitted.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4544 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

I have serious doubts Barr plays this card.

Yep. At the end of the day Barr is part of the swamp. IMO
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
77587 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

The reason she unmasked is because the Obama administration felt misled by the United Arab Emirates, which had failed to mention that Zayed was coming to the United States. They wanted to know exactly what he was up to. That’s when they realized Zayed was being used as a back channel by incoming Trump Administration.


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