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re: Burrow comes in at 9 inches

Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:59 pm to
Both you guys sound jealous rn
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6229 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:00 pm to



quote:

Don’t make vague comments about things I never said

Find exactly what I said, quote it, then tell me why you disagree

Otherwise shut the frick up with your crybaby shite



Handsize correlates with arm strength, accuracy, & ball security

It’s hard to bet against Joe’s body of work but something to keep an eye on for sure

Dont give me this crybaby shite? You know exactly what youre doing. Calling me vague thats laughable. You are purposely vague so no one can call you out TECHNICALLY.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Handsize correlates with arm strength, accuracy, & ball security


Do you disagree?


quote:

It’s hard to bet against Joe’s body of work but something to keep an eye on for sure


If I wanted to bet against him I would. I surely wouldn’t be afraid to say it.

If he does becomes an elite QB he’d certainly be an outlier for one with that hand size.

No need to throw a hissy fit. That is a fact.

Call it out if you want, you’re gonna look stupid if you want to go there.,
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9281 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Handsize correlates with arm strength, accuracy, & ball security


The strength of someone's hands, wrists and forearms would significantly matter for someone lifting extremely heavy weights, not a football. Plenty of big people have weak grip strength. How has JB's hand size affected his accuracy in 2 years as a starter at LSU? How many times did he fumble due to having 9" hands? He played on wet fields and still had success. You are going out on a limb with no direct applicability. In the event he did have lower completion rates in some games that also could be because of receiver short comings, not his accuracy nor hand size. Regardless, his eyes and what is between his ears separate him from a lot of potential QBs that would like to start in the NFL. I bet Winston would trade hand size with Burrow to obtain his live action mental gifts.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7332 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:18 pm to
The evidence of 2018?

The evidence that he could lead a hamstrung offense to victory?

The evidence that he could outrun defensive backs to ice a game?

Evidence that he could learn a playbook in 2 months?

Not sure why people are pushing that narrative that he was arse in 2018. The offense was arse and all of his success was despite that.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11117 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Handsize correlates with arm strength, accuracy, & ball security



Ohhh... mike vick had one of the strongest arms ever and his hand size was 8.5...
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3007 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:30 pm to
This is all part of the pre-draft process. They find something "wrong" with EVERY prospect. Almost as bad as social media.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10589 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:31 pm to
Hand size is such an overrated stat. Can the dude make accurate throws to all parts of the field or not? We know this answer already.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:36 pm to
Lester loves him some combine measurements
Posted by Fenwick86
Member since May 2007
3521 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:42 pm to
I see Patrick Mahomes measured 9.25, nobody can sling it like him.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47979 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:01 pm to
It will take a slight adjustment to the pro ball because it’s a little bigger but like the other poster said Vick threw one of the prettiest and longest balls in the NFL so I’m sure a worker like Burrow will adjust properly.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:03 pm to
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Lester loves him some combine measurements


I sure do. And as data accumulates over the years, thresholds develop and you generally want to be on the winning side of those.

And again, I am not betting against joe burrow. He’s always reminded me of tony romo, who also had small hands.

There are outliers and always will be. The draft especially early on is about mitigating risk. There’s a reason people pay attention to this stuff
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11436 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:06 pm to
From last year with Kyler Murray the topic of discussion...


quote:

Sports Illustrated noted that before the 2014 draft, writer Colby Rogers attempted to quantify the impact of hand size. Using measurements from the combine and football stats (starts, touchdown passes and interceptions), he found that the best size isn’t either large or small. It’s average. The group with hands between 9¼ and 9¾ inches outperformed players outside that range.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

The strength of someone's hands, wrists and forearms would significantly matter for someone lifting extremely heavy weights, not a football.


You ever try and throw a K2 football or a nerf football compared to an nfl ball?

Go try that and get back to me and pretend like the size of your hands do not matter.

Bigger hands allow you to manipulate & control the ball more. Better spin, better accuracy, longer distance, more velocity.
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
1739 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47979 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:14 pm to
It can work against you as well. People with hands that are too big have trouble with touch and accuracy like Jamarcus Russell. Incorrect launch angles with excessive pressure at the wrong places turns into poor accuracy.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:08 pm to
But as proven here, Russell didn't have big hands just a shitty franchise and work ethic
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47979 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:15 pm to
You’re right bad example. Should’ve gone with Mallet
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by TimTBlows20032007
Haughton
Member since Nov 2011
449 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:49 pm to
Just re-watched the OU game and the whole time I was marveling at how tiny Joe's hands looked. Almost like when Deadpool cut off his hand and had to regrow em. I guess at this point we should take back his Heisman cause there is no way those child like hands accomplished what he did this past yr ;)
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19755 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:54 pm to
quote:


Handsize correlates with arm strength, accuracy, & ball security


Mahomes measured 9 1/4 at the combine.
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