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Can Republicans argue so what Ukraine was pressured,
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:30 pm
the Bidens need to be investigated and Ukraine still got their aid?
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:34 pm to tigerskin
Sure. We pressure countries to do our bidding every day of the week.
That's another joke about this. The Dems are claiming he did it for personal benefit.
That's another joke about this. The Dems are claiming he did it for personal benefit.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:40 pm to tigerskin
What the deep state is really upset about is that Trump is changing precedent and investigating past executives. That never really happens. Presidents and Vice presidents were supposed to be untouchable on how they made their money while in office.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:41 pm to tigerskin
Yes it can. It can also be argued that the President is in charge of the Justice Department and it is his duty to pressure the Ukraine into investigating Biden.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:43 pm to tigerskin
There should be a quid pro quo for every dollar in aid that we send over seas. If we do this (aid) then you will do that (whatever we tie the aid to). Foreign aid should come in a zero based budget starting over every year from those countries requesting aid. Every dollar should have an ear mark. If they use it for something else, then they get zero the next. It should be audited every year or so.
Personally, the only foreign aid that we spend should only be in the form of aid that ensures our national security.
Personally, the only foreign aid that we spend should only be in the form of aid that ensures our national security.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:01 pm to tigerskin
It's absolutely in the national interest to know if a potential future president could be under the influence of foreign blackmail.
It's the exact reason that the dems wanted a special prosecutor to look at muh Russia.
It's the exact reason that the dems wanted a special prosecutor to look at muh Russia.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:25 pm to tigerskin
What the whole Russia hoax and this particular charade boil down to is simply this: Donald J. Trump is an outsider. He’s already wealthy, so he can’t be bought, and thusly, can’t be trusted by the established corrupt powers-that-be. So he must be neutered at the very least, or (best case scenario) removed, so that someone more controllable (or at least beatable) can take his place, and thus restore the past status quo.
It’s like a police force of 100 that’s got 99 corrupt cops. None of them trust that one honest cop, so they do what they can to undermine, if not outright get rid of, him. By setting him up, if necessary.
It’s like a police force of 100 that’s got 99 corrupt cops. None of them trust that one honest cop, so they do what they can to undermine, if not outright get rid of, him. By setting him up, if necessary.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:34 pm to tigerskin
I think that’s pretty much what they’ve said all along.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:38 pm to tigerskin
quote:
and Ukraine still got their aid?
Yes.
And an investigation was never started...so what are they even going on about??
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:01 pm to tigerskin
Foreign aid is the definition of “quid pro quo”. We give you money/aid and you do what we want. It’s only happened since we became a world power.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:47 am to tigerskin
quote:Did the Obama administration via QuidProQuoJoe pressure Ukraine?
Can Republicans argue so what Ukraine was pressured
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:10 am to tigerskin
The whole pressure thing is ridiculous. Other than disaster aid, every piece of money we send has some caveat attached to it. Hell, they probably attack caveats to disaster aid too.
Dems have no legs on this. He did nothing Illegal and if they believe it was unethical, then they need to explain why the Obama administration using the full force of the federal government to investigate and leak information on Trump was fine, legal and ethical.
At the end of the day it is laughable to call this High Crimes and Misdemeanors. They can't even point to a broken law which is why they had to go with "Abuse" and "Obstruction" because those are subjective terms. Not high crimes.
Dems have no legs on this. He did nothing Illegal and if they believe it was unethical, then they need to explain why the Obama administration using the full force of the federal government to investigate and leak information on Trump was fine, legal and ethical.
At the end of the day it is laughable to call this High Crimes and Misdemeanors. They can't even point to a broken law which is why they had to go with "Abuse" and "Obstruction" because those are subjective terms. Not high crimes.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:13 am
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