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re: Business owners: Are you having hard time finding employees?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:53 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:53 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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$350 an hour I will work Saturdays and Sundays for you.
No thanks. I rather buy out small sharks, take employees, keep taking on more jobs, and increase cost of construction. Next time people complain about prices, I will tell them to eat a dick.
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:57 am to Aubie Spr96
There is no labor shortage... unfortunately there IS an unbalanced allocation of qualified individuals compared to available jobs across the US.
11 million Americans still looking for full-time jobs
11 million Americans still looking for full-time jobs
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:00 am to Aubie Spr96
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Those people are NOT going to work, ever.
bullshite. Those people have never been hungry; a hungry person will work. We make unemployment too comfortable; there isn't some magic work gene that exists when you have brown skin and no habla.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:39 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Try paying more?
I was having a hard time finding and keeping labor on the catfish farm. Started paying overtime after 40 hours. Time and a half. No issues since and it’s not a huge extra expense because half the year we aren’t busy and they don’t work more than 45 hours. But they get a huge pay boost may-September when we work 60-70 hours a week
I was having a hard time finding and keeping labor on the catfish farm. Started paying overtime after 40 hours. Time and a half. No issues since and it’s not a huge extra expense because half the year we aren’t busy and they don’t work more than 45 hours. But they get a huge pay boost may-September when we work 60-70 hours a week
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:04 am to deltaland
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Started paying overtime after 40 hours. Time and a half. No issues since and it’s not a huge extra expense because half the year we aren’t busy and they don’t work more than 45 hours. But they get a huge pay boost may-September when we work 60-70 hours a week
Best way to do it, cost of benefits is already paid.
Working on teamwork bonus production incentives will also pay off big, in certain situations.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:13 am to texashorn
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To be fair, we don’t need more immigrants, we need to get rid of welfare, curb charities and buckle down for the brief crime wave. Then Americans will go to work.
That’s the hard choice, though.
^^^^^frickING THIS ^^^^^
Hunger is a great motivator. If you arent bed ridden you should have a job. Will it be a great job? Probably not, but that is the consequence of screwing around in school and being lazy.
If you get a job and:
show up on time
dressed appropriately for the job
do not have children until you can afford to raise them.
pass a drug test
dont get arrested
you will get raises and better shifts. Maybe even a managerial position.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:16 am to ChexMix
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but we need immigrants ASAP. I’m sorry. Americans are spoiled, addicted, and too lazy.
frick off with that bull shite.
well, I got news for you...a lot of Americans don't like to work hard...or hard work.
sure, there are millions are who are the hardest working on the planet...but if you can't see the shift in our culture, then you're blind
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:21 am to ApexTiger
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well, I got news for you...a lot of Americans don't like to work hard...or hard work.
Especially when their bellies stay full and they have a comfortable place to sleep.
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sure, there are millions are who are the hardest working on the planet...but if you can't see the shift in our culture, then you're blind
It goes back to the above. We have to end that, for the good of our own people. Got to stay hungry.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:26 am to BayBengal9
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There is no labor shortage.
I own a small business. I speak with small to large business owners from one end of this country to the other. The common theme is that they can't find the people they need to do the work. One of my customers in Nevada specifically stated that they lost business because they couldn't hire the drivers they needed. The job market is as tight as I've ever seen it.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:45 am to Aubie Spr96
OP has 132 DV's right now.
This means that there are 132 people that have never had to hire someone. There is without a doubt a labor shortage especially in the construction market.
Right now I am having to hire and put up with some of the dumbest of dumb people that I have ever had to because no one else can be found.
The govt needs to be issuing work visas left and right. The immigration problem isn't that hard to solve if one side would get the hell out of the way or maybe both sides.
This means that there are 132 people that have never had to hire someone. There is without a doubt a labor shortage especially in the construction market.
Right now I am having to hire and put up with some of the dumbest of dumb people that I have ever had to because no one else can be found.
The govt needs to be issuing work visas left and right. The immigration problem isn't that hard to solve if one side would get the hell out of the way or maybe both sides.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:39 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Companies that offer good wages, benefits, and culture, don't seem to struggle to find employees.
Everyone says they pay "above-market" but that's not possible.
You might have to relocate people.
Everyone says they pay "above-market" but that's not possible.
You might have to relocate people.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:41 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I own a small business. I speak with small to large business owners from one end of this country to the other. The common theme is that they can't find the people they need to do the work. One of my customers in Nevada specifically stated that they lost business because they couldn't hire the drivers they needed. The job market is as tight as I've ever seen it.
I see a lot of this as well from my clients, but when I talk to them, I find out they are offering jobs with shite wages and shite benefits. I encourage them to widen their net, and raise wages and benefits, and it usually fixes the problem.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:43 pm to BayBengal9
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There is no labor shortage... unfortunately there IS an unbalanced allocation of qualified individuals compared to available jobs across the US.
I say this often, we have a bunch of unemployed factory workers in Ohio and a bunch of plant openings in Louisiana.
It's easy enough to train the Ohio boys to work at the LA plant, but they don't want to move.
If you pay them enough, they will move.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:52 pm to deltaland
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Try paying more?
This is the answer, but most business owners refuse to acknowledge it, even when business is going tremendously well.
A good analogy is to look at the fast food industry .. the places that are considered the ‘ultimate’ in fast food experience, are Chick Fil A and In n Out burger.. i’m not trying to start a debate about which burger you like best or whatever, but i’ve lived all over the country, and those two places consistently have lines around the block, even at off peak times.. they are known for doing one item, and being the best at it.. but moreso, they are known for their tremendous customer service,. Why? While every other fast food place starts their workers at $8 or $9 an hour, In N Out and CFA start at $12 or $13 an hour, even more in some parts of the country- and managers make well into six figures... A difference of $3 or $4 per hour is a big deal to someone at that level, just like a salary increase of $30k or $40k per year is a big deal to most of us here who work in sales, or at a plant, or in an office... These lessons are applicable to all businesses.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:11 pm to Sweltering Chill
I haven’t been to an In n Out in 15 years, but doesn’t Chick Fil A have small portion sizes?
I’m just saying that something has to give.
I’m just saying that something has to give.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:28 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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I’m pro-Trump, but we need immigrants ASAP. I’m sorry. Americans are spoiled, addicted, and too lazy.
Don't blame Trump. Let's have the discussion. If we need more workers, then let's bring in more workers. Legally. The Democrats won't even talk about it. They just want illegals to pour in.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:36 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I own a small business. I speak with small to large business owners from one end of this country to the other. The common theme is that they can't find the people they need to do the work. One of my customers in Nevada specifically stated that they lost business because they couldn't hire the drivers they needed. The job market is as tight as I've ever seen it.
I work at a plant in Mississippi... we are struggling to hire on workers here... when we do get applicants, they can't pass a drug test or background check. We also pay the lowest wages of any plant on the coast. I keep telling the bosses they have to increase our base pay (hasn't gone up in three years), but they won't, and so we'll keep having issues. Not the fault of the labor market.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:50 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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Increasing the pay scale will not encourage useless people. You telling me with people offering high wages the drug problem will go away? Why is Hollywood addicted to drugs?
I’ll pay you $75 a hour right now, You will work hard for a week hopefully. Soon as you get your first paycheck, you will become useless. You will call in to go shopping with your wife because of Christmas. You will call in in attend your child’s b-ball, football, or etc game. You will call in because your truck was broken into. You will call in because your Truck is broken down.
This is all facts.
So let me address this cluster frick, you aren't paying 75/hour, if you were you would have no problem getting people, fricking zero.
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You will call in sick to attend a LSU game, you will call in to attend “church.”
people that normally make 75/hour don't work weekends. But you go grab a industrial guy down here in swla and pay him that, he isn't calling in for shite.
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You will call in to go shopping with your wife because of Christmas. You will call in in attend your child’s b-ball, football, or etc game. You will call in because your truck was broken into. You will call in because your Truck is broken down.
So wtf, it sounds like you are working these guys as slaves. Of course people are not going to work 14 on/1 off indefinitely. Jesus fricking christ. Of course they want to attend their kids game etc.
Sounds to me like you are a self obsessed douche of a boss who expects people to be married to the job 24/7. Newsflash, you gonna have to pay more than 75/hour to make someone be like that.
I will say this, in industry, our contractors don't have a terribly tough time finding people because they pay and treat them as the professionals they are.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:03 pm to BayBengal9
Here where I live, My Grandfather, and another great carpenter built all of the good houses, back in the late 40s, all the ay to the early 70s. It was serious work. Neither one, were get rich quick kinds of guys. They didn't go to golf courses or country clubs, and they didn't sit in offices, they were out there supervising, and making sure that things were done right.
Then they went home in the afternoons and worked on their fences and barns, and tried to make their cattle herd better. Raised crops and never stopped.
They did eventually get wealthy, they didn't do it the way these slime ball builders want to do it now.
They paid their men a living wage, and worked beside them everyday. They had good men too. They set examples.
Then they went home in the afternoons and worked on their fences and barns, and tried to make their cattle herd better. Raised crops and never stopped.
They did eventually get wealthy, they didn't do it the way these slime ball builders want to do it now.
They paid their men a living wage, and worked beside them everyday. They had good men too. They set examples.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:20 pm to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
i hire contractors all the time, it more has to do if i want to deal with the extra mouths to feed as to adding them on. Contract labor is what it is, so if they dont work out, its just adios. I currently have about 40 contractors.
I hired an employee last year, she started in April. I posted it online and received about 250-300 resumes in a day. Of those, I had my assistant go through and filter it down to the most qualified/best resumes and that was about 20-25. From that I picked out a dozen or so to schedule the interviews. From those dozen i was only able to get 4-5 to schedule an interview. and of those 4-5, only one showed up.
She was hired, and luckily for me, has worked out pretty well.
I hired an employee last year, she started in April. I posted it online and received about 250-300 resumes in a day. Of those, I had my assistant go through and filter it down to the most qualified/best resumes and that was about 20-25. From that I picked out a dozen or so to schedule the interviews. From those dozen i was only able to get 4-5 to schedule an interview. and of those 4-5, only one showed up.
She was hired, and luckily for me, has worked out pretty well.
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