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re: FISA IG report IN-GAME thread (JUST RELEASED)

Posted on 12/9/19 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29327 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 5:38 pm to
For real entertainment, watch any of the major network’s evening news and listen to their spin. Ooh boy, they should lend the writers for the news show to some of their lame sitcoms
Posted by zunic
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
921 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 6:21 pm to
How about them oranges.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2407 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 6:52 pm to
Sorry to Bunyan & Co.

That report is pretty bland... nothing happened... nothing will happen. Not fair, but move on. Elites protect themselves.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 7:05 pm to
So basically the IG is saying that the FBI was not acting politically but just too incompetent and gullible to be the top law enforcement agency in the world.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63728 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 7:35 pm to
Per usual, nothing more than a vacuous ad hominem response.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23367 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 7:37 pm to
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Per usual, nothing more than a vacuous ad hominem response


Truth hurts.

You make no salient arguments and deserve nothing more.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 7:48 pm to
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oh my god so they had information from the NSA or CIA that Page was working with them and had already provided dirt on Russia and EVEN THEN, they kept going and had to use the Steele Dossier (to get enough PC to get the FISA warrant), when THEY KNEW IT WAS NOT TRUE BASED ON PAGE'S STATEMENTS CORROBORATED BY HIS HANDLING AGENCY


It’s worse than that.

It was the FBI’s own confidential human source (CHS) that directly disputed the accuracy of Steele’s information. Not only did the FBI not disclose the disputed (exculpatory) information, it didn’t even disclose the existence of the FBI CHS until right before the last FISA app.

The disclosure of the CHS operation prior to the last FISA app yet failure to disclose the exculpatory information is certainly curious.

Setting aside the substance of the CHS information, which we know was exculpatory, at the very least the disclosure of the existence of the CHS operation would have allowed the FISA court to infer that Steele’s information could not be corroborated by the CHS. In my opinion, that inference is exactly why the FBI didn’t disclose the existence of the CHS operation.

Of course, the failure to disclose the substance of the CHS’ information was intentional. There is no other reasonable explanation.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:02 pm to
Well holy shite. The rumors were true. They had an entirely exculpatory transcript of Papa D yet still went after him.

That’s criminal.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Source 2 asked Papadopoulos directly whether help "from a third party like WikiLeaks for example or some other third party like the Russians, could be incredibly helpful" in securing a campaign victory. Papadopoulos responded:


So Alexander Downer, right?
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Sean Davis
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@seanmdav
31 minutes ago

More

In 2017, the FBI told @ChuckGrassley in a letter that it provided a "defensive briefing" to Trump and his campaign in 2016. The IG report today shows that claim was a lie. The FBI attended the briefing to spy on the Trump team, not warn it of Russian attempts to infiltrate it.


Grassley will not be pleased. Wow.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:16 pm to
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IG reports confirms PLOT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT showing that Steele was an "avatar"

Per Horowitz: Steele "was not originating source of any factual information in his reporting. Steele instead relied on a Primary Sub-source for information … that was then passed to Steele."

— Lee Smith (@LeeSmithDC) December 9, 2019


Chances this Primary Sub-source is Ukrainian?
Posted by zunic
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
921 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:47 pm to
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Chances this Primary Sub-source is Ukrainian?


Maybe if you keep telling yourself the Ukraine thing is real it'll become real and everyone will forget about Donald's corruption.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11140 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 5:34 am to


Is it just me or does anyone else feel like every time you hear someone say "Let's be clear" or "Just so we're clear", you're 100% convinced you're about to hear some bullshite lie.

Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11140 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 5:44 am to
Yea this whole thing smells like an illegal search and seizure where LE finds a dead body in the trunk, "So what we lied and twisted the truth to search the trunk" we found a crime. Only NO DEAD BODY was found and now the LE are trying to arrest the guy because he doesn't have receipt to show when and where he got the spare tire.

Spoiler alert, Ray Charles can see the abuse of power going on here.

At this point all this is just partisan bullshite, but the train will keep rolling down the tracks. I fear the swamp RINO's will not be able to resist the temptation of clinging to what little power Chuck and Nancy dangle in front of them. They are weak, and have no back bones.

Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36745 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:31 am to
What the hell are you talking about?

I am talking about Steele’s primary source.

I was referencing Luvchenko (sp?), a Ukrainian politician.

With that said, Steele’s primary source is likely former Russian foreign intelligence chief Vyacheslav Trubnikov or Putin aide Vladislav Surkov.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5022 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:38 am to
Anyone taking bait from Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer deserves to die like a poisoned rat.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1666 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:06 am to
After a day to digest, this report is extremely damning.

The problem is that Horowitz didn't have enough information at his disposal to make a correct judgement on the origins of the probe.

But when you take into account the statements by Barr and Durham, I don't know how one cannot see the hammer coming.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63728 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:46 am to
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You make no salient arguments and deserve nothing more.


Yeah, I just can't compete with the brilliant political theorists and policy wonks up in here.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:52 am to
this is, yet again, another nothing burger.

meadows tweet all but confirms it.

flail away bots and girls.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
2861 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:53 am to
Douche bags, like yourself, get Douche bag responses !

This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 11:55 am
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