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Tell Me About Fly Fishing
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:55 am
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:55 am
Okay OB, I’m thinking about taking the plunge. What do I need to know? Should I spend money on my first rig or go cheap? What’s the best weight rod setup for bass/trout sized fish?
I have a general idea what I’m getting myself into here.
I have a general idea what I’m getting myself into here.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:04 am to elprez00
I bought a cheap cabelas wind river combo last year. 5 weight I believe. I used it a lot for bream and bass. I've never used a high end fly rod so I dont know what I'm missing out on but I've enjoyed learning how to fly fish with this rig. I got in to it for less than $200.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:06 am to celltech1981
Could that handle redfish??
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:30 am to elprez00
Trout - 3-6 wt
Redfish - 9-11 wt
TFO makes good rods that will not break the bank. If you’re a baller I would look at Scott rods
Redfish - 9-11 wt
TFO makes good rods that will not break the bank. If you’re a baller I would look at Scott rods
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:42 am to stickly
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Redfish - 9-11 wt
I disagree. I could not imagine throwing an 11wt at any size redfish and I also could not imagine catching slot reds on a 9wt. For slot redfish I often use a saltwater 6wt but only when the weather is cooler so I don't end up killing the fish. The most widely recommended saltwater fly rod size is an 8wt. It will handle most any size redfish, bonefish, etc.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:54 am to reds on reds on reds
Reds I’m in Hammond. I’d like something versatile enough to use for Bass but be able to do a little inshore with.
I just don’t know if the rod quality makes them easier to throw. Is the Orvis gear worth the price?
I just don’t know if the rod quality makes them easier to throw. Is the Orvis gear worth the price?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:00 am to elprez00
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Reds I’m in Hammond. I’d like something versatile enough to use for Bass but be able to do a little inshore with.
I'd get a 7-8wt. Be fun enough for bass and you can still catch reds/specks on it. I'm not a big fan of Orvis gear but the H3s do throw really nicely. Look at the TFO BVK 9' rod and an Allen Fly Fishing reel. Not entirely sure what your budget is but that would get you a really nice setup to see whether you enjoy it or not. Also, don't skimp on fly line. I really like the Wulff Bermuda Triangle Taper.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:03 am to reds on reds on reds
This is good advice.
Generally speaking, kind of 3 big zones
Shorter length 3/4 wt: smaller freshwater streams with tight casting expected
5 wt: popular for freshwater lakes and larger rivers
8 wt: most popular/versatile saltwater
I've never personally had a reason to go larger than that.
Edit: just saw later response. Agree with a 7/8 given your goals.
Generally speaking, kind of 3 big zones
Shorter length 3/4 wt: smaller freshwater streams with tight casting expected
5 wt: popular for freshwater lakes and larger rivers
8 wt: most popular/versatile saltwater
I've never personally had a reason to go larger than that.
Edit: just saw later response. Agree with a 7/8 given your goals.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 7:05 am
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:37 am to elprez00
I posted this in the last fly fish thread, and got well actually'd, but this is for a guide for someone just getting into it
I'm at the beginners stages of getting into fly fishing, last year I went and talked with the guys at Orvis and they gave me a lot of useful info, they also do a class on Saturday mornings at some point if you're near one.
The gist of what I was told was:
3wt set up for pan fish (think ultra light)
5wt set up for trout and smaller bass (medium to light)
8wt set up for big bass and redfish (heavy to medium heavy)
The rod is much more important than the reel.
Orvis's beginners combo has a really good rod, but a pretty terrible reel.
Cabelas had a beginners combo with a RLS+ reel, which I'm told is a good reel, but the rod is bad, this is the combo I went with (RIP Bargain Cave)
In hindsight I'd have gone with the Orvis combo
You won't know the difference in good and bad until you get into more expensive stuff though
I'm at the beginners stages of getting into fly fishing, last year I went and talked with the guys at Orvis and they gave me a lot of useful info, they also do a class on Saturday mornings at some point if you're near one.
The gist of what I was told was:
3wt set up for pan fish (think ultra light)
5wt set up for trout and smaller bass (medium to light)
8wt set up for big bass and redfish (heavy to medium heavy)
The rod is much more important than the reel.
Orvis's beginners combo has a really good rod, but a pretty terrible reel.
Cabelas had a beginners combo with a RLS+ reel, which I'm told is a good reel, but the rod is bad, this is the combo I went with (RIP Bargain Cave)
In hindsight I'd have gone with the Orvis combo
You won't know the difference in good and bad until you get into more expensive stuff though
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:07 am to elprez00
It's ironic that fishing is literally my #1 passion but I just can't get the hang of a fly rod no matter how hard I try.
I bought a setup a few years ago ($150ish) but I haven't figured it out although I live right next to a park pond where I try to practice with it quite often. I keep on getting that "whip" effect and literally popping the flies off the end of the tapered leaders. I've definitely lost more flies than successful casts I've made.
I bought a setup a few years ago ($150ish) but I haven't figured it out although I live right next to a park pond where I try to practice with it quite often. I keep on getting that "whip" effect and literally popping the flies off the end of the tapered leaders. I've definitely lost more flies than successful casts I've made.
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It's all in the wrist
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:14 am to reds on reds on reds
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reds on reds on reds
We need to make a trip soon. You need to check out the new boat. And I need some fly lessons!!
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:37 am to TigerAxeOK
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I try to practice with it quite often. I keep on getting that "whip" effect and literally popping the flies off the end
You are trying to hard to make it happen with arm strength.
10 to 12 arm motion is all it takes. Let the line do the work.
ETA: I was horrible for years. About 2 years ago I spent the day with a professional guide and another really good fly fishermen. In about 10 minutes they improved my casting dramatically. I suggest casting lessons. Youtube vids can't correct you in real time.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:46 am to Elusiveporpi
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We need to make a trip soon. You need to check out the new boat. And I need some fly lessons!!
Let's make it happen next Friday/Saturday/Sunday we have nice weather. We can head outside and see if the bulls are still there.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:53 am to reds on reds on reds
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the H3s do throw really nicely
Of course they do, they are $900
I've been watching the internet for another H2 1 piece now that the H3's are out there and one thing I've noticed is the price for a gently used Recon is really good. In my opinion the H2 and the Recon are really close. Maybe even too close.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:05 am to HotKoolaid
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I've been watching the internet for another H2 1 piece now that the H3's are out there and one thing I've noticed is the price for a gently used Recon is really good. In my opinion the H2 and the Recon are really close. Maybe even too close.
I didn't like the H2's tbh. Have you thrown a Hardy Zephrus SWS?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:24 am to reds on reds on reds
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Let's make it happen next Friday/Saturday/Sunday we have nice weather. We can head outside and see if the bulls are still there.
Dont make me bust out the mombo mullet again
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:42 am to HotKoolaid
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one thing I've noticed is the price for a gently used Recon is really good. In my opinion the H2 and the Recon are really close. Maybe even too close.
I bought an 8wt Recon (Ebay) a few years back and it works great for me. Great for Gulf Coast and has done well on the Caribbean flats.
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elprez00
You might want to figure a budget. I suggest shopping for a lightly used rod and reel. Many people use this type of equipment once then leave it in a closet.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:55 am to TigerAxeOK
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It's all in the wrist
Actually Its all in the hesitation and the line pull down. Its actually very easy with a little practice. Keep trying
It's all in the wrist
Actually Its all in the hesitation and the line pull down. Its actually very easy with a little practice. Keep trying
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:16 am to elprez00
6 wt if you’ll do more bass fishing
8 wt if fishing more for reds
Rod quality matters
Line quality matters
The reel matters when you get into larger fish
8 wt if fishing more for reds
Rod quality matters
Line quality matters
The reel matters when you get into larger fish
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