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re: I think O wants a modern offense.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:14 pm to NoGeaux
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:14 pm to NoGeaux
quote:Obviously because he thought it would work. They "met with the Saints offensive staff for a day"
If he wanted a “modern” offense why hire an OC who hasn’t been an OC this century?
. He wants a successful, modern offense. But as someone just said, does he want it enough to make a change? We'll see. 
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:20 pm to earl keese
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In my opinion, if Canada had been given the same chance that everyone wants to give o, LSU's offense numbers would have been much better this year than there are right now.
I was for the Canada hire and wanted us to keep him for the same reason; however, in hindsight I don't think he's the long term solution either. But, obviously SE isn't as well.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:21 pm to abellsujr
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I think O wants a modern offense
So why did he fire Canada and hire a guy who was last an OC before anyone on the team was even born?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:21 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Obviously because he thought it would work. They "met with the Saints offensive staff for a day" . He wants a successful, modern offense. But as someone just said, does he want it enough to make a change? We'll see
He's thought his ideas would work since Ole Miss.
He wants a successful offense. What HC doesn't?
But if having a modern offense was his #1 priority there are any number of younger coaches well versed in modern offensive concepts.
Don't see how you can see the Ensminger hire and say that having a modern offense is his #1 priority. Having Ensminger was his #1 priority.
Why did he want Ensminger? Answer that and you'll know where his true priorties lie.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:23 pm to memphis tiger
quote:Because the staff hated him. And I don't think Canada liked it much here either. He was not allowed to hire his own staff.
So why did he fire Canada
quote:Because he thought SE could do it. And he was wrong.
hire a guy who was last an OC before anyone on the team was even born?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:26 pm to abellsujr
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Because he thought SE could do it.
The fact that he thought this should tell you all you need to know about his ability to lead the program long term.
I hate to think about what will happen if/when Aranda leaves and he has to hire a DC.
Even money says he will beg Pete Jenkins to come out of retirement and run the Defense.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:27 pm to Goldrush25
quote:I'm not disagreeing with you. But maybe he thought SE could make it happen. It was a bad move we know now. So let's see where his priorities lie now.
Why did he want Ensminger? Answer that and you'll know where his true priorties lie.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:28 pm to memphis tiger
quote:God help us all if that happens.
The fact that he thought this should tell you all you need to know about his ability to lead the program long term.
I hate to think about what will happen if/when Aranda leaves and he has to hire a DC.
Even money says he will beg Pete Jenkins to come out of retirement and run the Defense.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:34 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:
I was for the Canada hire and wanted us to keep him for the same reason, however, in hindsight, I don't think he's the long term solution either.
Yeah, I agree with you. He probably wasn't.
quote:
But, obviously SE isn't as well.
I agree again. Obviously he isn't.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:34 pm to abellsujr
So be hired an OC that hasn’t called plays in 20 yrs?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:37 pm to abellsujr
quote:
But maybe he thought SE could make it happen.
Well obviously.
I'm just saying he wanted a modern offense if it was convenient for him to have one. It was not so important to him that he had to ensure that he get it. If it were that important, he would've made the appropriate hire.
It's kinda like hoping you find a Louis Vitton suit in the bottom of a bargain bin. If you really wanted it and were ready to pay to price to get one, you could just go to the store and get it, instead of hoping that it'd magically appear in a spot where it typically shouldn't.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:39 pm to abellsujr
One thing O has to learn is just because something doesn't work 1 or 2 series doesn't mean it won't work at all. You can't just abandon something based off a small sample size. Change it up a little and go back to what you wanted. Now after it doesn't work several times then you rethink. He's too easy to just dump the whole game plan.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:41 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Well, look what we did for the HC hire? Alleva went with someone who was "comfortable" and that he thought he could get value out of. I'm not surprised that they tried the same thing with hiring the new OC.
If you really wanted it and were ready to pay to price to get one
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:58 pm to abellsujr
If Orgeron wants to hire the "best" coordinators, then he needs to be able to accept the position coaches that the coordinators need to hire to impliment their systems.
Im quite sure this was a major source of Canada's problem, being forced to retain the sub par rb, wr, te and ol coaches we had on staff at the time.
None of his position coaches had the expertise or experience to help him install his offense. Not one.
This was particularly true where the tobacco chawing, bourbon sipping, good ole boy over the te room, who had played interim OC the prior year, was concerned.
At his 1st press conference, Canada joked about Ensminger's untouchable, "favorite son" staus on staff. The rest, as they say, is history and therein lies the true beauty of the Ensminger hire.
Good, ole Steve is wholly and completely indifferent to the quality of staff with which Orgeron surrounds him. Its all good: HE'S OVER IT.
Im quite sure this was a major source of Canada's problem, being forced to retain the sub par rb, wr, te and ol coaches we had on staff at the time.
None of his position coaches had the expertise or experience to help him install his offense. Not one.
This was particularly true where the tobacco chawing, bourbon sipping, good ole boy over the te room, who had played interim OC the prior year, was concerned.
At his 1st press conference, Canada joked about Ensminger's untouchable, "favorite son" staus on staff. The rest, as they say, is history and therein lies the true beauty of the Ensminger hire.
Good, ole Steve is wholly and completely indifferent to the quality of staff with which Orgeron surrounds him. Its all good: HE'S OVER IT.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:13 pm to abellsujr
2003 USC offense
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:17 pm to OU812
quote:Did USC do hurry up, and read option in 2003?
2003 USC offense
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:24 pm to mhc4tigers
Yeah, Salisbury is the Savior for LSU’s offense. 
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:27 pm to mhc4tigers
whoop de doo
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:29 pm to abellsujr
WHY IS THIS SO HARD???!!! HIRE A frickING OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR FROM THIS CENTURY!!
Posted on 11/18/18 at 3:35 pm to TigerJeff
I agree. It should be that simple. We need to move beyond this "good ole boy" concept and bring in someone who will be effective.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 3:36 pm
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