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Have historically black colleges outlived their purpose?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:56 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:56 am
....and if so, what’s to be done about that?
Clearly, at their inception, their was a need for their establishment, and for many years, their existence.
But consider their white “counterpart” schools at the high school level. I grew up in the era of “LISA” schools. For the youngsters, “LISA” schools were small, private schools that served one unwritten purpose to which educating children was actually secondary. These schools sprang up in late 1960s and early 1970’s, and that PRIMARY purpose was to keep little white boys and girls from having to face the horrors of being educated while sitting next to little black girls and boys.
As the South integrated the public school system in the 1970’s, and found other, more subtle ways to segregate children, the primary purpose and conditions for which and in which these schools were created and deemed necessary no longer existed. As such, they either closed up shop, or allowed black children to attend.
The same plight now faces historically black colleges. Sure, white folks can go. And obviously, black folks can go to colleges that were once off limits to them. It just seems to me that the when the educational money pie is getting carved up at the state level, and simultaneously word comes down that higher education is facing serious financial crisis, the most logical place to cut would be an ENTIRE SYSTEM of schools who’s purpose for creation no longer exists.
Clearly, at their inception, their was a need for their establishment, and for many years, their existence.
But consider their white “counterpart” schools at the high school level. I grew up in the era of “LISA” schools. For the youngsters, “LISA” schools were small, private schools that served one unwritten purpose to which educating children was actually secondary. These schools sprang up in late 1960s and early 1970’s, and that PRIMARY purpose was to keep little white boys and girls from having to face the horrors of being educated while sitting next to little black girls and boys.
As the South integrated the public school system in the 1970’s, and found other, more subtle ways to segregate children, the primary purpose and conditions for which and in which these schools were created and deemed necessary no longer existed. As such, they either closed up shop, or allowed black children to attend.
The same plight now faces historically black colleges. Sure, white folks can go. And obviously, black folks can go to colleges that were once off limits to them. It just seems to me that the when the educational money pie is getting carved up at the state level, and simultaneously word comes down that higher education is facing serious financial crisis, the most logical place to cut would be an ENTIRE SYSTEM of schools who’s purpose for creation no longer exists.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:00 am to younger now
quote:Yes.
Have historically black colleges outlived their purpose?
But now they have a new purpose: provide a money filled sandbox for blacks to play in.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:01 am to younger now
We need more vocational training and less college training across the board - regardless of race.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:05 am to younger now
I say cut schools based off of graduation rates.
If you're only graduating 15% of students, it's time to close the doors.
If you're only graduating 15% of students, it's time to close the doors.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:07 am to younger now
quote:
the most logical place to cut would be an ENTIRE SYSTEM of schools who’s purpose for creation no longer exists.
I agree most of them should be shut down, but aren't a few of them, like Spellman and Howard, fairly respected Universities nationally?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:15 am to younger now
Segregation now and forever.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:17 am to younger now
My question is if you are a young black man or woman why would you attend an HBCU. When you could get into universities that are of higher quality and provide better opportunity for a higher education. There are some exceptions to this rule like Howard or Spelman, but at the end of the most are a step down from non HBCU universities.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:32 am to younger now
Your post really has nothing to do with HBCUs out living their purpose.
There are plenty of colleges/programs that need to be cut. Keeping something open just be title is an HBCU is a bit dumb, but the title of HBCU is still relevant and won't go away.
There are plenty of colleges/programs that need to be cut. Keeping something open just be title is an HBCU is a bit dumb, but the title of HBCU is still relevant and won't go away.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:22 am to younger now
quote:the primary purpose was to not subject the kids to the culcha of a certain demographic.
PRIMARY purpose was to keep little white boys and girls from having to face the horrors of being educated while sitting next to little black girls and boys.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:31 am to younger now
quote:are racist.
historically black colleges
/thread.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 9:48 am to younger now
a loooong fricking time ago.......
the fact that suno stays open is outright theft from the taxpayers of LA
the fact that suno stays open is outright theft from the taxpayers of LA
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:06 am to younger now
Should be against the law for any public school to be completely predicated on segregation. This 2018 for Chrissakes.
That said, private schools are private and can do what they want, ie Xavier, Dillard, etc.
That said, private schools are private and can do what they want, ie Xavier, Dillard, etc.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:18 am to younger now
I think you’ve outlived your purpose as a poster.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:58 am to younger now
I was offered a minority scholarship to go to a HBCU for nursing school. I'm white. I went to the school. They never paid. Got a degree so I can't really complain. No one really cares where I went to college anyway as long as my state license is in good standing .
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:06 am to younger now
quote:
Have historically black colleges outlived their purpose?
Yep just like the Black Congressional Caucus
Posted on 5/2/18 at 2:35 pm to younger now
quote:
“LISA” schools.
They still exist just under different organizational names. LISA > MPSA > MAIS
quote:
primary purpose and conditions for which and in which these schools were created and deemed necessary no longer existed. As such, they either closed up shop, or allowed black children to attend.
There primary purpose may no longer be stated as this, but it's kind of still the purpose of those schools.
They crashed the public schools in those areas during that time period, so there was no real possibility of going back.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:49 pm to younger now
Why shouldn’t people be allowed to self-segregate?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:21 pm to younger now
This could be said about 95% of colleges. Hmmm I wonder why you singled out hbcus? Outside of STEM courses most colleges are scams
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:24 pm to younger now
Whitey still lives so, no.
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