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To the Aranda for HC folks

Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:18 am
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:18 am
Besides being a great DC, what makes you believe he’d be a great head coach? Not charismatic, not a great recruiter, so what would make him fit to lead a big program?

For the record, I’d take him over O, but neither are qualified for the LSU HC job imo.
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:21 am to
I agree about Aranda. Kiffin or Fleck for me!
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:21 am to
Seems to have a Saban-like attention to detail, is hyper-focused on defense and would actually let a big time OC do his job. Also, he's young and we could catch him on the upswing in his career. It's a bit of an experiment, but worth the risk IMO. We know what experiment as failed already...
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24459 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:25 am to
Aranda would have a process. 0 has processed food. So there’s that.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:39 am to
His high intelligence and ability to scheme don’t qualify him to be a HC? If Aranda switched to OC tomorrow, he’d be one of the top 5 in football.

The man is scary intelligent and has one of the highest football IQs in all of football.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10211 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:42 am to
if i had to guess, most people are intrigued by his film commitment and his attention to details..........like another certain someone who has roamed the sidelines here before. not suggesting they're in the same stratosphere, but can see the reasons for optimism.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45197 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:46 am to
quote:

Besides being a great DC, what makes you believe he’d be a great head coach?


I could ask the same question of the people that want to hire Frank Wilson.

quote:

Not charismatic


This is not a qualification or a characteristic of a good or great HC.

quote:

not a great recruiter,


You don't know that.

quote:

For the record, I’d take him over O, but neither are qualified for the LSU HC job imo.




Listen to him talk for any length and you can clearly see how intelligent and organized and detail oriented the guy is. Will this make him a great HC, no but it would be enough for me to give him a chance.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:50 am to
If there was a homerun candidate right now, I’d say get him but they’ve all been grabbed.

He’s young and seems like the complete opposite of O

He’s going somewhere to be a HC someday and will be a good one. If we make another dumb hire following O, we are going to lose him. I can’t see him working for two incompetent coaches in a row.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3619 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:01 am to
Because he is thought to be the best coach on the team and too keep him at LSU promoting him to head coach may be the only way. Although after his 1st loss we would be ready to buy out his ridiculous contract I'm sure he would get.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Besides being a great DC, what makes you believe he’d be a great head coach?


I've already said that we wouldn't know before hand...which would be the very same issue for promoting ANY well thought of coordinator at any level, right?

So if we are not going to find a PROVEN successful head coach (and that clearly was not a precedent when hiring Orgeron as anyone who can understand basic math knows) and we look to an up and coming coordinator, then arguably the best DC in the country would have to be on the short list...right?

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Not charismatic, not a great recruiter, so what would make him fit to lead a big program?


Charismatic is overblown. Belechick is as charismatic as an ingrown toenail and Saban is not much more then that. From everything we hear from players they like and respect his knowledge for the game and that in itself is magnetic to someone wanting to learn and improve. Recruiting is important, but who knows how well he could close when running his own program with assistants that are themselves proven recruiters.

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For the record, I’d take him over O, but neither are qualified for the LSU HC job imo.


Orgeron certainly is not. We hired a coach with a sub .500 career coaching record to lead a program that has won 2 national titles since 2003 and played for a third. It's almost impossible to type that ou and still believe I'm awake. Aranda is qualified but unproven. Tons of prestigious program have and will continue to pull up coordinators to run their programs. No hire is fool proof...but you hire the best available coach and then see what happens. As Aranda is a Top 3 DC in the nation now, he's unquestionably qualified to run his own Power 5 program should that be the direction he want to go.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10325 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:28 am to
Does Aranda even recruit at all? I just never see him meeting with recruits like I do other coaches. I really don't know.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:32 am to
I agree. He's not exactly a proven commodity and the fact that he prefers to stay out of the spot light doesn't seem very head coach-like. I think a lot of people are assuming because he is such a good DC it will automatically translate over.

However, being that we are now "give him a chance" University and qualifications no longer matter, I would much prefer to give Aranda a chance than Orgeron.
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
3946 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:39 am to
He couldn't help close the deal on that 5* CB either. Who really knows.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17714 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:51 am to
Being charismatic is not in the job description for a head coach. Saban has the charisma of a wooden fence.

Aranda has high standard and attention to detail, which something a head coach needs. He is a bright mind. Risky hire? Yes. But ironically less risky than hiring the worst coach in Ole Miss history.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:52 am to
If by some miracle, Ensminger wants to run a fast paced offense, another "power" struggle will take place.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24671 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:58 am to
I'd love to have a defense minded HC. I feel like he'd try to find an OC that could beat his intellect on defense.

As to why I'd take him? He strikes me as an extremely detail oriented individual who is serious about his position. I also get no inkling of pride from him. Which is what destroyed Les and is in the process of destroying O (again).
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3894 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:30 am to
I like Aranda.... but we need to clean house on the next HC hire.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:51 am to
Do some more research and pay closer attention
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9940 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:23 am to
Someone is going to pick him up as a HC and he is going to be awesome and we will have missed out on that which is right under our nose.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64365 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:54 am to
He just seems to have “it” to me. That’s fine if others don’t agree. Just seems like an extremely prepared and very intelligent coach. I also feel he’d go grab a young guy who would modernize our offense with the resources lsu would give him to work with.

There are a ton of young hotshot offensive guys out there. Not as many defensive minds. He’d be my first choice as HC and I wanted him when we hired O.
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