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re: Do you want Presidents to have the power to spy on political opponents?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:20 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:20 am to I B Freeman
Hell to the No. GWB created this Monster and Obama used it for the purpose civil libertarians fear.
This is why FISA needs to be eradicated.
This is part of the Patriot Act. It NEEDS TO GO.
If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
It is the ESSENCE of the 4th amendment that there should be no search of someone’s privacy without a specialized warrant. It is the ESSENCE of Due Process that our citizens are entitled to Notice and an Opportunity to be heard.
secret warrants issued by secret courts with no notice or no opportunity to be heard —WILL create abuse. It’s not an if, it’s a when. A judiciary unrestrained by concepts of due process is a car without seatbelts. It is PER SE DANGEROUS.
Dangerous if Obama is driving. Dangerous if Trump is driving. Dangerous if Bush is driving. DANGEROUS.
This is why FISA needs to be eradicated.
This is part of the Patriot Act. It NEEDS TO GO.
If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
It is the ESSENCE of the 4th amendment that there should be no search of someone’s privacy without a specialized warrant. It is the ESSENCE of Due Process that our citizens are entitled to Notice and an Opportunity to be heard.
secret warrants issued by secret courts with no notice or no opportunity to be heard —WILL create abuse. It’s not an if, it’s a when. A judiciary unrestrained by concepts of due process is a car without seatbelts. It is PER SE DANGEROUS.
Dangerous if Obama is driving. Dangerous if Trump is driving. Dangerous if Bush is driving. DANGEROUS.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:22 am
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:33 pm to Wednesday
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If the Federal Government wants to listen to my phone calls, read my text messages, or my emails - it needs to get a specialized warrant in a court in fricking public after a probable cause showing. The proceedings MUST be public because the only only only way to challenge the probable cause finding is through the adversarial process.
There has to be something in between what is happening now, and this. A public hearing and open process only means the jig is up to an actual terrorist. Whatever was being planned woll have to be executed by someone else, who isn't under suspicion. You're essentially saying we are only going to catch them after the fact, while the bodies are being counted. Depending on the severity of the attack, that could be a lot of bodies.
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