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re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:23 pm to
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Simple fact of the matter is we have arguably the second best coach in the SEC

Well, this is definitely arguable.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:35 pm to
Mental gymnastics are a staple in the O-Flake narratives. He’s 4-2 vs ranked teams in reality yet somehow you managed to change it to 1-4 with a false narrative. Truly amazing. When you beat someone their ranking drops if wedve lost those games the opponents ranking would’ve improved but you’dve used that against him too. So if he wins and knocks teams down he loses if he loses and teams improve their ranking he loses. This is what you people do you alter the facts to set up no win scenarios. You may think it’s clever but it’s easily spotted and pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Mental gymnastics are a staple in the O-Flake narratives. He’s 4-2 vs ranked teams in reality



Mental gymnastics to look at a team’s ranking at the end of the year to gauge how good they were?


Even if you prefer to look at rankings at the time the game was played, he is 4-3, not 4-2.

That also means he got beat by 30 by an unranked MSU team



quote:

When you beat someone their ranking drops


You do realize that those teams continue to play other games after playing us right?

If they are good, they will win those other games, and rise up in the rankings again. If they aren’t good, then they lose, and they don’t.


Sorry if I lost you with my mental gymnastics there, CheeriO
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:42 pm to
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9-3 season where the team was plagued with injuries and had freshman in at key spots.



Where have we heard this before...



In all seriousness O and the staff deserve a lot of credit for turning the season around when it could have went really bad.


With that said I wouldn't say 9-3 is something to be completely celebrating like its some milestone. We ripped Les for dropping games he shouldn't have. This is also one of the weaker schedules in year. Auburn Bama and MSU are all very good teams but 5 of the 8 other SEC teams fired their coaches or was playin with an interim . I saw improvements as the season went on, so there are no excuses for next year with the momentum. New QB's can lead your team to the playoffs, that has been established already.


hopefully one of the two QB's on can step up and help build a better passing game. We need to wrap up and have a nice finish for NSD.

Next year will be extremely telling of the future of O and LSU football. With a lot tougher schedule and with a state full of the nations best talent. O needs to capitalize on that and haul in a top class.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:44 pm to
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Since taking over at LSU, Orgeron has gone 1-4 against conference teams that were ranked at the end of the regular season.




This was one of the main issues with Mark Richt at Georgia and why he was fired at the end, he beat the teams you were supposed to but dropped most of the ones that matters.
Posted by scott2274
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:44 pm to
Credit for the obvious u moron!! He is the leader of a team who has been trending upwards for the last 3/4's of the season. If any of u butt hurt fake fans think all Coach O does during a game is wear a headset to look the part and that's it then that segment of so called fans are stupid. To think a head coach doesn't do anything related to coaching on the sidelines during a game is just plain ignorance. Man, we got some dumbass fans.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:45 pm to
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He’s 4-2 vs ranked teams


Who?


Florida doesn't count either
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:47 pm to
he would be the first to say that Bama didn't beat a ranked FSU team
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:48 pm to
Saban lost to UAB or some no name team. Should he be stripped of his accomplishments too?
It happens.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:49 pm to
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So when do we actually start giving O some credit?


We actually wins something other than 3rd place in the SEC West.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:49 pm to
Pre season we were picked to win 9 games so people like you said if he doesn’t win 10 he’s a failure. Now that he’s on the verge of winning 10 you’re scrambling to find excuses that devalue it. It’s so obvious and pathetic.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:52 pm to
LINK
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My bad he’s 5-3 vs ranked opponents
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:53 pm to
Obviously you don’t know what record vs ranked opponents means or you didn’t like that Os is good so yo altered the definition to fit your agenda. Nice try but outside of the Rantard bubble it isn’t reality.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:56 pm to
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Saban lost to UAB or some no name team. Should he be stripped of his accomplishments too?
It happens.

O doesn't have any accomplishments though. He also didn't take over a 3 win team.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:57 pm to
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altered the definition



Give my apologies to Webster
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 10:59 pm to
Lol no surprise that’s the level you drop to when you’re proven wrong. You really showed me on that one. As if inventing ways to attack a coach isn’t petty enough you pull the ultimate cool move and go grammar police in a football thread lol.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Mikethegreat
Member since Sep 2016
375 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:02 pm to
Recruiting doesn’t bother me and honestly I don’t think anybody runs a completely clean program at the highest levels. Now can’t be ole miss crazy but honestly they didnt get hammered nearly as hard as I expected and was a quick decision. What they did to Miami was just terrible making them wait that long on a decision hurt them more than anything they did to ole miss
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:06 pm to
He is 9-3 his first year.
He hasn't had time to prove himself good or bad, so why are so many fans crying doom and gloom? It hasn't happened yet.
I didn't support hiring O as head coach, but I'm damn sure not rooting against him, he's our coach and I root for LSU.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21788 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:08 pm to
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the level you drop to when you’re proven wrong



The level I drop to?

Why are the playoffs and bowl games determined by the final rankings?

Could it be because where teams are ranked at the end of the season with the full season played out is the best measure of a team?

Or did Alabama beat the third best team in the country this year?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:12 pm to
Lol they’re not decided by polls they’re determined by a selection committee and your retarted theory has nothing to do with Ogerons record vs ranked teams. Wow you’re bad at this.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 11:15 pm
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