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Why does the healthcare debate essentially revolve around like 4% of Americans?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:11 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:11 am
Look, I have sympathy for those with pre-existing conditions, but why must they get priority over the 85%+ of Americans who simply want lower premiums and costs?
Healthcare reform should be based on helping the most people lower their costs, rather than helping a select few at the expense of all others
Healthcare reform should be based on helping the most people lower their costs, rather than helping a select few at the expense of all others
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because it is a way to sensationalize the voting populace in order to grow big govt.
That's about it.
That's about it.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
emotional appeal
its the most powerful tool to control people
its the most powerful tool to control people
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:13 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why do you hate women, children, and the elderly OP?
Are you some kind of heartless monster?!?
Are you some kind of heartless monster?!?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:13 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Shhhhh....Government is here to save the world.
Why does the healthcare debate essentially revolve around like 4% of Americans?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because the ACA wasn't about Healthcare at all. It was about redistribution of wealth. Obama used the Healthcare system as a front...using the Healthcare system was like using a tool to remove a bolt...It fit his agenda.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The whole point of insurance is mitigating risk. Any of us can develop a new serious health problem at any time. The protections protect all of us from the risk of being uninsurable in the future.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:20 am to Salmon
It's also an important way to know what's important to us.
As a broad rule in society, we generally don't like seeing people die when we can avoid it. There's nothing wrong with people experiencing strong emotions when they see it happening.
Now, there's a very real discussion to be had about what we are giving up in order to give these people a better chance to live, and democrats are rightfully admonished when they attempt to shut down that conversation on the basis of emotion. But we likewise shouldn't outright ignore the emotions we feel in favor of numbers in a pure balance sheet approach.
As a broad rule in society, we generally don't like seeing people die when we can avoid it. There's nothing wrong with people experiencing strong emotions when they see it happening.
Now, there's a very real discussion to be had about what we are giving up in order to give these people a better chance to live, and democrats are rightfully admonished when they attempt to shut down that conversation on the basis of emotion. But we likewise shouldn't outright ignore the emotions we feel in favor of numbers in a pure balance sheet approach.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Seems like charities should be more than capable of handling the 4%.
it is the mindset that it is the government's responsibility that needs to be washed from this country.
it is the mindset that it is the government's responsibility that needs to be washed from this country.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:23 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
There are important lessons one can learn by observing and thinking about the actions of the Left. The question you ask is a good tool to use to conduct such thinking.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:24 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Think about the chirrun....damn man have you no heart?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because the politicians and the people who are supposed to be on our side pay attention to the fake media and their phony propaganda.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Two things
1- redistribution and the path to single payer
2- it makes the virtue signaling progs feel warm and fuzzy
1- redistribution and the path to single payer
2- it makes the virtue signaling progs feel warm and fuzzy
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:46 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because the inability to obtain insurance with preexisting conditions is a more dire problem than premium costs
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:48 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Follow up question. Why didn't the Dems just put that 4% on Medicaid and leave everyone else the hell alone? Why doesn't the GOP suggest that now?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:50 am to Tigerdev
That's your opinion.
How much have you contributed and what have you sacrificed for the benefit of those that have medical needs?
You can skip a vacation or forgo a new car to help these people. You don't have to grow government and force your desires on the rest of the country.
Every time you get your way, I lose some ability to be charitable in areas that I think are important.
Cool with that?
Stop down down voting me , baw.
How much have you contributed and what have you sacrificed for the benefit of those that have medical needs?
You can skip a vacation or forgo a new car to help these people. You don't have to grow government and force your desires on the rest of the country.
Every time you get your way, I lose some ability to be charitable in areas that I think are important.
Cool with that?
Stop down down voting me , baw.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:52 am to Tigerdev
***News flash*** insurance companies are private entities in the business to MAKE money for themselves and their shareholders. Why would they not charge more for people that are going to cost them more? It's simple economics and capitalism. If you have a problem with this than maybe you set up a federal healthcare system that covers all of those with pre existing conditions and leave the healthy horses to still buy their insurance privately.***
*** we already have a safety net for the poor called Medicaid. Just expand the eligibility to cover those with preexisting conditions that the private sector doesn't want on their books regardless of income level ( high and low).
*** we already have a safety net for the poor called Medicaid. Just expand the eligibility to cover those with preexisting conditions that the private sector doesn't want on their books regardless of income level ( high and low).
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:52 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:52 am to Tigerdev
quote:
Because the inability to obtain insurance with preexisting conditions is a more dire problem than premium costs
bullshite. There are already in place Medicaid and Medicare for those that truly need it.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Identity Politics.
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