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So surprised so many have given up on O...

Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:37 pm
so soon. Every coach has a bad game and the Moo State game certainly qualifies, but the hand wringing among the fan base is ridiculous. LSU is very young and this is the staffs first year together so give it time. O's got this so chill.
Posted by YoungTigah
Member since Jun 2017
602 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:38 pm to
Agree and Disagree
Very true people are jumping the gun about O. Give it time and we shall see.
But:
We still lost by 30 which is completely inexcusable.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:40 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37138 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:41 pm to
This is because most see O as a bad hire. The worst loss to MSU in school history only validates that so far. O has to prove his $3.5 mil worth
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59081 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:43 pm to
I'm so surprised that so many of you fail to see what an awful hire he was. I really don't get it.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8292 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:44 pm to
There is a loud group of a few people who act like LSU went toe-to-toe with the '85 Bears, and lost a close one.

But we all know what happened, and it's pretty damning. Mississippi State made us quit early in the third quarter. It's not unreasonable to be concerned with the direction of our program.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88866 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

I'm so surprised that so many of you fail to see what an awful hire he was. I really don't get it.

O probably talks like the OP, that's a gamechanger apparently
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9045 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:49 pm to
Given the number of freshmen in this team you can not blame everything on coaches. Dave Aranda was considered the best DC in the country even by posters on this board, he can not become that bad overnight. If we have good coaches we need to see steady improvement in every game for the rest of the season. In December these freshmen are practically sophomores and there should not be any excuse for making costly mistakes.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:50 pm to
You have a bunch of kids on here that know it all and were just waiting for the opportunity to melt. Acting exactly like a bunch of teenage girls.
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:51 pm to
Everytime I try to chill as you say, I can't help but think how this past Saturday night looked so much like the Ole Miss teams that Orgeron led to win 3 sec games. Really makes me worry.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:51 pm to
Most realistic fans predicted 2 maybe 3 losses given all the issues with this team. Ms St was not one of those. I will admit after Saturday's performance, my confidence in Orgeron dropped dramatically. He may well be in over his head and the 2 great coordinators model could be a colossal mistake. Time will tell.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
Hang in there little buddy. It's just that you are so much more intelligent than all of us. Give us some time, we will catch up with your superior self.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:53 pm to
Canada tbd
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:53 pm to
I haven't given up but I did not like what I saw in that last game. I stretched my patience as far as it could go with Miles, I can't do it again for another 5 years. We scored 7 against freaking Moo State!

Again, I haven't given up on him but he's definitely on thin ice.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:59 pm to
Assuming that someone "gave him a chance" and began with a neutral opinion of him, I fail to see how someone could be overly encouraged by what we've seen thus far.

We beat up on two bad teams and got crushed by an OK team. Why would a disinterested onlooker look at that and have a positive opinion of his coaching job thus far?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:00 pm to
Well said
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59081 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

You have a bunch of kids on here that know it all and were just waiting for the opportunity to melt. Acting exactly like a bunch of teenage girls.



quote:

Dawgfan128


Yes, that's correct.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59081 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Hang in there little buddy. It's just that you are so much more intelligent than all of us. Give us some time, we will catch up with your superior self.



Based on your posting history, I doubt it. That's OK though. We no longer institute people like you. You can contribute to society. Maybe McDonald's is hiring.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20455 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

LSU is very young and this is the staffs first year together so give it time
O and Aranda have been together awhile now, it's not a new defensive scheme.

Etling, Guice and Chark are not young. Etling is a serviceable 5th yr Sr, Guice is a Jr and a preseason All American, and Chark is a Sr. All are returning starters. O-line depth is thin, but there are returning starters from a supposed good line last year, and the O line coach remains the same.

I highly doubt Miss St is great, they are about an average team, and will have their share of SEC losses. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish around 4-4 in the SEC. Maybe less. They went 5-7 last year.

And they mauled us.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

LSU is very young and this is the staffs first year together so give it time.


But it isn't. 3 coaches changed from the offensive side of the ball. Everyone else, the entire defensive staff, was here last year. They recruited these players.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:08 pm to
Fans have a right to give up. Plenty were skeptical before he ever officially coached a game as the official head coach due to his prior record. It speaks for itself.

quote:

The worst loss to MSU in school history only validates that so far.


I think this is overblown. If LSU lost 37-14 or 27-7 would it really have made that big of a difference in your perception? What we do know is that we have a young team. Games can get away from a young team, especially on the road. You factor in the numerous penalties and it isn't surprising the game was as one-sided as it was.

LSU has a lot of work to do and some tough games left to play. I truly think Mississippi State will be the second best team on LSU's schedule. Let's see how it plays out.
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