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Dinardo Hiring Process
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:38 am
Just curious what led LSU to hire Dinardo. I was in middle school so I didn't really keep up with it as much. Who were some other names we interviewed and what made a Vandy coach so appealing?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:40 am to Clark W Griswold
Those 5-6 seasons don't coach themselves baw.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:46 am to Clark W Griswold
I would be interested in the answer as well.
Though it went South, I like what he did here.
Though it went South, I like what he did here.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:46 am to Clark W Griswold
He showed promise at Vandy and was cheap.. In the end, he was the right man for the job and without him we probably wouldnt have the continued success after he left. His faults were in hiring and loyalty.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:48 am to Clark W Griswold
he was a disciple of Bill McCartney who turned Colorado into a power in the early 90s. He was their offensive coordinator when they won the NC
Then he basically made Vandy pretty respectable after that.
LSU saw him as the next hot young coach
Then he basically made Vandy pretty respectable after that.
LSU saw him as the next hot young coach
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:50 am to Clark W Griswold
I remembered Pat Sullivan but didn't remember Mack Brown. I vaguely recall John Cooper now after finding this:
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LINK
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:51 am to Clark W Griswold
back when LSU hired Dinardo, and Mike Archer and Curley Hallman for that matter, they were cheap (well Joe Dean was cheap) and didn't understand the necessity of spending money to hire good college football coaches. It was to our own detriment. But Dinardo was an up and coming coach who had moderate success at doormat Vanderbilt, going 19-25 over 4 years as well as being the OC for Colorado's national title team in 1990. And Dinardo did do a lot of great things here. I don't think he was a bad hire, he just ended up being far too loyal to Lou Tepper. But if Dinardo is not hired, or someone like him, to change the recruiting culture in Louisiana, then the past 17 years play out much worse for us IMO.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:55 am to Pilot Tiger
Mack Brown who was still at UNC then was the hottest name at the time was the top call in show choice for sure. He had ties to LSU (OC under Stovall) and coached at Tulane and rumors had it was very interested in the job. Unfortunately he was going to cost 400-500K/year and Joe Dean was not going to pay.
Dean's top target was Pat Sullivan for Auburn Heisman winner then HC at TCU. I believe they even agreed to a deal but TCU wouldn't let him leave and or LSU wouldn't pay his buyout so Dean went with his next choice Gerry D.
Dean's top target was Pat Sullivan for Auburn Heisman winner then HC at TCU. I believe they even agreed to a deal but TCU wouldn't let him leave and or LSU wouldn't pay his buyout so Dean went with his next choice Gerry D.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:56 am to Clark W Griswold
I remember listening to Buddy D on WWL and he played TAPS when LSU announced Dinardo. Wasn't a popular hire
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:59 am to lsufball19
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far too loyal to Lou Tepper
Every one says this but Tepper was only D.C. here for the last 2 years. The first 3 it was Carl Reese who left to join Mack Brown at Texas for a big raise, Dean wasn't paying head coaches and wasn't willing to give money for staff. Hell he wanted to give Gerry another year and then wanted to low ball Saban
In his defense I'll acknowledge when he took over the AD was drowning in red ink and he needed to clean it up. But he had long out lived his usefulness l.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:02 pm to dandan
Awesome article, guy did great things here for a few years.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Every one says this but Tepper was only D.C. here for the last 2 years.
well, LSU went from having a good DC in 1997, to a preseason top 5 team in 1998. Our defense gave up 275 passing yards a game in 1998. It was the sole reason we were 4-7. There's no excuse for that team not winning the SEC West. Dinardo had the opportunity to fire him after the 1998 season but chose to stick with him and followed up that 1998 season with an even worse 1999 season. He had back to back top 15 finishes in 96-97, and Saban benefited greatly from the talent Dinardo left behind.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:04 pm to Clark W Griswold
Dinardo, as I remember it, was on staff at Colorado when they won the title with Kordell Stewart. He was considered a promising assistant.
He went to Vanderbilt, and at the time Vandy was nothing like it is today. Vandy, then, was truly a cupcake, a team someone like Tulane would schedule expecting a win against. There was a year LSU went 4-7 and still beat Vandy 49-7.
Dinardo did a massive overhaul of Vandy, and they went from creampuff to a competitive loss in most games. LSU really had to fight to beat them.
LSU hired Dinardo away, with the idea that our program had a much higher ceiling than Vandy's did, and the hope that a similar level of improvement would put LSU back squarely in the bowl scene again (and you had to be 8-3 in general to do so). Overall, he accomplished that.
He went to Vanderbilt, and at the time Vandy was nothing like it is today. Vandy, then, was truly a cupcake, a team someone like Tulane would schedule expecting a win against. There was a year LSU went 4-7 and still beat Vandy 49-7.
Dinardo did a massive overhaul of Vandy, and they went from creampuff to a competitive loss in most games. LSU really had to fight to beat them.
LSU hired Dinardo away, with the idea that our program had a much higher ceiling than Vandy's did, and the hope that a similar level of improvement would put LSU back squarely in the bowl scene again (and you had to be 8-3 in general to do so). Overall, he accomplished that.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:07 pm to H-Town Tiger
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far too loyal to Lou Tepper
Every one says this but Tepper was only D.C. here for the last 2 years.
Keeping him after 98 definitely still qualifies as being "far too loyal".
Tim Couch and Quincey fricking Carter
Whatever the factors that went into the decision, keeping Tepper over Watts, who interestingly went to Michigan State with Saban, was the final nail in his coffin.
And I'm a huge Dinardo fan that thinks he doesn't get nearly enough credit for where we are today from the idiots that think Saban birthed LSU football from his golden vagina.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:08 pm to dandan
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Pat Sullivan
Was all but a done deal. They couldn't come to terms on who would pay his buyout.
quote:
John Cooper
Used LSU to leverage a raise out of OSU.
Dinardo basically got the job the same way Les Miles did. After everybody else had passed, he was the one who wanted the gig.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:12 pm to Clark W Griswold
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Just curious what led LSU to hire Dinardo.
Real names (and we had real names interested in the job when Hallman was hired, BTW) weren't really interested in the job. LSU had come to terms with Pat Sullivan (Heisman winning QB from Auburn, who was at the time coaching TCU) - something happened - this was pre-internet, so it was leaked through conventional means but then something happened with his buyout - assurances that had been made were withdrawn - something made him stay at TCU.
Then, Joe Dean, in typical Joe Dean fashion, went with Dinardo. Dinardo catches a lot of crap - some of it deserved by his final 2-year collapse - but the rebuild job he did was tremendous. You kids don't remember how bad it was.
Dinardo literally and figuratively brought back "The Magic" and laid the foundation upon which Saban and Miles won championships.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
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and then wanted to low ball Saban
I thought Mark Emmert hired Saban?
Never mind Emmert was chancellor.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:14 pm to Scoob
LSU actually agreed to hire Pat Sullivan but backed off because they refused to pay the buy out. They basically settled for Dinardo because everyone else had turned us down and he said he would take care of his buy out (600 thousand dollars ) himself. Carl Reese didn't leave over money. It was a falling out between him and Dinardo and it started with the 36-21 loss to Ole Miss one week after beating #1 Florida. Dinardo wasn't on the staff that stole a national championship at Colorado in 1990, nor was Kordell Stewart the QB.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:17 pm to TexasTiger89
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I thought Mark Emmert hired Saban
He did but Dean was still AD. Supposedly Dean wanted to try and negotiate a cheaper deal but Emmert told him to just accept Saban's terms.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:20 pm to Clark W Griswold
It was actually better than our most recent process, where NO other coaches were vetted or interviewed. Alleva did the lazy thing and just gave the job away to O.
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