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DACA is a made up crisis. Can someone explain why children of criminals are culpable?

Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:33 am
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:33 am
I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38379 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:34 am to
So, when do we stop? How many years do you have to avoid the law to become a citizen here in the USA?

The world wants to know.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54233 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:36 am to
And I can't think of another crime that so openly flaunts the law as illegal immigration does.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:06 am to
Could actually be OK and if done right, better for them. Problem is...false interpretation of empowerment by insecure and undereducated white people.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27832 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:49 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


They aren't being charged with anything. Yet. If i broke into your home with my kids in tow. Would my kids be allowed to stay in the home indefinitely?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21969 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:18 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


They don't have to go to jail, they just get to go back to their home where they belong!
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5197 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:32 am to
30 million people invade the USA from Mexico is a made up crisis?
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18027 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:49 am to
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DACA is a made up crisis. Can someone explain why children of criminals are culpable?


No, no one's ever given a good explanation. They've only tried to spin it, but it makes no common sense. This is a terrible idea that very few people outside of this message board consider necessary.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 5:51 am
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:10 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


Be honest, how do you feel about reparations? Are "white people" today responsible for the "plight" of minorities?

You see, im with you, i dont think the "dreamers" are responsible for being here, that doesnt give them rights as a citizen and they shouldn't be charged like their parents so when they go home they can reapply for legal entry.

On the other hand, folks on the left using this generational immunity argument seem to be the same ones trying to hold me accountable for something my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents MIGHT have done?

Just asking?
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2051 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:50 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


If children are dragged to the scene of the crime you don't keep them there. you send them home.

We aren't trying to through them in jail, just send them home.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:52 am to
Since when is the US an orphanage in that case?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:58 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.




No one is charging the kids with anything but what they have received has been through illegal action. So, lets say I conned people out of their savings for years, skimmed the books, built up huge bank accounts, bought vacation homes, and my kids lived the life of luxury without any involvement in my crimes. However, when I get caught, they get to keep all the houses and bank accounts that were acquired through my illegal actions? After all, they have been living the life of luxury for 15 years - it isn't fair to take all of that away from them, right?

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51405 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:10 am to
I just have a problem with DACA because it is executive overreach.

Sure, it may feel good to implement DACA, but the way it was done wa probably unconstitutional.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23286 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:15 am to
Oh we're doing analogies?

Since when do we let children inherit ill gotten gains stolen by their parents? Those madoff kids got a tough break.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89635 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:17 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


Can you think of a country controlling its borders and deciding who gets to enter and stay?

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53143 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:18 am to
I agree! Many of us are being tried for something we didn't do. No human is illegal
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68273 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:20 am to
Look at you!

Gett'n all preachy about protecting the innocents.

C'mon man, you know our culture does the abortion thing.

How far do you think you'll get with that argument?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54233 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:24 am to
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I can't think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.


So mom and dad go to jail. The kid becomes a ward of the state and ends up in a foster home.

Now there's your real punishment right there - the separation of a family that didn't need to be.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56517 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:38 am to
quote:

think of a time that children dragged to a crime scene were charged with something.
good point. Kid napped children should remain with their captors. We should reward them for their illegal activity.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:54 am to
The hyperbolic arguments from both sides are so ridiculous and illustrate the political divide in this country. All of these DACA recipients are not kids. Most are adult aged. The vast majority are not criminals or gang members or violent people. None of them are eligible for any welfare programs. They were all brought here prior to 2007 by their parents. They all just want to stay in the country they came of age in, the country they were educated in, the country that gave them an opportunity.


Also for those children whose parents simply overstayed their Visa, their parents are technically not criminals. Overstaying a Visa is a civil offense, not a criminal one.
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