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Spinoff: The Commonwealth Fund Healthcare 2017 rankings. US basically ranked last
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:05 pm
The Commonwealth Fund Healthcare 2017 Rankings
Just came out recently, and the US is ranked 10-11 out of 11 European countries/Canada.
I know this is a totally bogus study. Will anyone here dispute that?
Just came out recently, and the US is ranked 10-11 out of 11 European countries/Canada.
I know this is a totally bogus study. Will anyone here dispute that?
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
These studies tend to put a lot of weight on "fairness", so they are basically bunk.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Looks about right.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Just came out recently, and the US is ranked 10-11 out of 11 European countries/Canada. I know this is a totally bogus study. Will anyone here dispute that
So basically this report means Obamacare sucks! Right?
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
what was the category? Best at treating stab wounds?
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
I know this is a totally bogus study. Will anyone here dispute that?
The grading criteria is suspect. The US has a high mortality rate yet we also have a high homicide and suicide rate. Quality of care or access to care grading criteria will not address those incidents. The other missing grading is what constitutes child mortality which the us has a very liberal standard versus other nations.
Find it odd that the country with the highest drug research and surgical methods is ranked lower. Personal care is out the door for government doctrine and many of these studies are disingenuous at best.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:21 pm to WaWaWeeWa
The CommonWealth Fund has never attempted to really hide who they are and what they want.
They were a favorite of my grad school professors to reference and assign papers for policy discussion. They want access and equity above all. We're not very good at those b/c, you know, capitalism and all. But the theme of their data and conclusions has been consistent since I was in school 9+ years ago. I wholeheartedly disagree with alot of their positions, much to the chagrin of certain professors, but they aren't deceptive, IMO.
They were a favorite of my grad school professors to reference and assign papers for policy discussion. They want access and equity above all. We're not very good at those b/c, you know, capitalism and all. But the theme of their data and conclusions has been consistent since I was in school 9+ years ago. I wholeheartedly disagree with alot of their positions, much to the chagrin of certain professors, but they aren't deceptive, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:23 pm to WaWaWeeWa
No system is perfect but there is no other country that has better trained doctors overall and better treatment outcomes overall, especially for cancer. And yes, we do a very large percentage of all the world's meaningful medical research. And yes, we do subsidize drug prices for the rest of the world.
If the US health industry disappeared overnight, the next day would see innovation grind to a halt and drug prices go through the roof for these "superior" health care systems.
If the US health industry disappeared overnight, the next day would see innovation grind to a halt and drug prices go through the roof for these "superior" health care systems.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:49 pm to WaWaWeeWa
These ranking always ranking very high based on "equity" and "government subsidization." So a country like Haiti, where everyone has little access to a shitty system can be scored more highly than they should in "equity" because the poor and the rich don't have access to great care.
The amount of government subsidization is irrelevant to the actual performance of a healthcare system. So it's ridiculous to make it a metric.
The amount of government subsidization is irrelevant to the actual performance of a healthcare system. So it's ridiculous to make it a metric.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:19 am to WaWaWeeWa
Op asserts bogosity with absence of proofs, logic, evidence.
Until otherwise investigated by bloviating pals, usa is last among cultural equals.
End transmission.
Until otherwise investigated by bloviating pals, usa is last among cultural equals.
End transmission.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:08 am to WaWaWeeWa
Even using their measures, the system they rank #1 overall is 10th in "Outcomes"
If their measures are meaningful, then...why bother?
If their measures are meaningful, then...why bother?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:33 am to WaWaWeeWa
Completely bogus. I live in Germany and pray daily that I don't have a major medical incident here ,because the hospitals here suck and the doctors are subpar and it is the same throughout Europe.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:34 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
know this is a totally bogus study. Will anyone here dispute that?
I know one difference is the we way count infant mortality rates.
We count miscarriages or children who died shortly after birth in the mortality rate, I know most of these other countries don't.
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