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When did the German soldiers of WWII realize they were the 'bad guys'?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:37 pm
I know the average soldier was probably a normal guy just fighting for his country and not necessarily bad but at what point did the rank and file realize that their leaders were evil?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:39 pm to Undertow
During the Russian winter in 1941-1942.
Losing tends to make one rethink things.
Losing tends to make one rethink things.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:40 pm to Undertow
When the emperor got thrown down the elevator shaft on the dwath star.
Seriously, i dunno. Did they ever?
Seriously, i dunno. Did they ever?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:43 pm to Undertow
At some point during the war, the average soldier probably heard rumors or knew about the mass killing of Jews in their concentration camps.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:45 pm to Undertow
You have to remember the ideology that Hitler spread. He galvanized that nation like no one ever really has in such a short time. That alone distorts one's view.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:48 pm to Undertow
The swastikas should have been a dead giveaway.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:49 pm to Undertow
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I know the average soldier was probably a normal guy just fighting for his country and not necessarily bad but at what point did the rank and file realize that their leaders were evil?
Well, many of the nazi soldiers had no choice but to do what they did. It was either do what they were told or they would be killed so I am sure there were many who didn't agree with what Hitler was trying to do and realized they were fighting against forces trying to stop them,
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:54 pm to Undertow
They weren't "bad" until they lost. Victor writes history.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:56 pm to Undertow
Slightly off topic but I also loved the story of Erich Hartmann, a Luftwaffe ace. He didn't take shite from his Soviet captors. He even beat the shite out of one that was interrogating him.
The eventually tried to place him in the East German air force while in captivity and he answered with this..
The eventually tried to place him in the East German air force while in captivity and he answered with this..
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If, after I am home in the West, you make me a normal contract offer, a business deal such as people sign every day all over the world, and I like your offer, then I will come back and work with you in accordance with the contract. But if you try to put me to work under coercion of any kind, then I will resist to my dying gasp.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:57 pm to Undertow
I recently read Shadow Divers about the missing U Boat found in New Jersey Waters. Towards the end of the book they did an overview of the lives of the crew. The officers all hated Hitler with a passion for what he had done to the country. They were just all to scared to say anything to one another or each other because they didn't know who to trust. They were all just doing their duty for their country. It really got me interested in this very subject.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:03 pm to Undertow
They didn't. Read Black Edelweiss.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:07 pm to Undertow
Realistically, the average soldier was so screened from real news and the concentration camps. It wasn't until near the end or after the war they realized it.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:07 pm to Undertow
perhaps when they were using the masturbation machines on people.
or when they were turning people's skin into soap.
or maybe when they were turning their skin into lampshades.
or when they were turning people's skin into soap.
or maybe when they were turning their skin into lampshades.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:22 pm to Undertow
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When did the German soldiers of WWII realize they were the 'bad guys'? by Undertow
When the second guy posted the same thing?
This isn't a very good joke.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:36 pm to Undertow
Most didn't and really shouldn't have thought they were. The average German soldier didn't commit war crimes or do anything particularly bad (for war). Many of them maintained that they were doing something good (defending Europe against communism).
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:50 pm to Undertow
As people have mentioned a generation grew up with the Nazis rebuilding after WWI. These were the diehard fodder outside the core members. The old warhorses went along with the German profession because they were professionals but they had no love of the Nazis party or Hitler. Paulus infamously refused to die for the little colonel at Stalingrad and sent out an underling to negotiate surrender of the army and his capture.
One sub captain at least was relieved of command by his crew for taking down Hitler's portrait while saying there will be no idolatry here.
As for Britain, had Hitler not ordered bombing away from the RAF bases it would have knocked out the will. Instead attacking the cities gave the RAF breathing room and Churchill enough propaganda to stay in the saddle.
Berlin you had the Nazi youth, old men seeing annihilation, what remained of the military that hadn't moved west to surrender to UK and US, and the Charlemagne division. None of the fodder would admit they were bad, hell our own sub command stood up for Donitz at the trials.
Bless Zhukov for sending his boys to die instead of ours.
One sub captain at least was relieved of command by his crew for taking down Hitler's portrait while saying there will be no idolatry here.
As for Britain, had Hitler not ordered bombing away from the RAF bases it would have knocked out the will. Instead attacking the cities gave the RAF breathing room and Churchill enough propaganda to stay in the saddle.
Berlin you had the Nazi youth, old men seeing annihilation, what remained of the military that hadn't moved west to surrender to UK and US, and the Charlemagne division. None of the fodder would admit they were bad, hell our own sub command stood up for Donitz at the trials.
Bless Zhukov for sending his boys to die instead of ours.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:53 pm to Undertow
When they put on a uniform that had a skull and crossbones on it
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:56 pm to Undertow
I'd also point out that Hitler wasn't exactly quiet about his beliefs. He tamed it down, sure, but Mein Kampf is ripe with anti-semitic content. If you knew anything about him, you knew he was an evil dude.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:35 pm to Undertow
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I know the average soldier was probably a normal guy just fighting for his country and not necessarily bad but at what point did the rank and file realize that their leaders were evil?
Probably would have never thought they were the bad guys if they kept winning.
"Winners write the history books"
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