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Where does arm strength rank in your requirements for qb
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:19 pm
I think this is a measurable that is always over valued come draft time that if we take a deeper look at cones back to bite teams more times than not.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 6:22 pm
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Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I think this is a measurable that is always over valued come draft time that if we take a deeper look at cones back to bite teams more times than not
It's nice but not nearly as important as accuracy and pocket awareness
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
#1 - Al Davis
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's right below accuracy, pocket awareness and anticipation for me.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If they have a minimum amount to succeed, it's not a big deal. Teddy Bridgewater basically has the minimum amount of arm strength you can ask for.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Being able to make certain throws is extremely important, but it is still way down the list.
and a lot of these guys with huge arms struggle with touch throws and basic accuracy.
and a lot of these guys with huge arms struggle with touch throws and basic accuracy.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
From 0-10 a 6.5
Accuracy 8
Decision making 9
Leadership 10
Accuracy 8
Decision making 9
Leadership 10
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:58 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's very important as their are no good QBs with weak arms. It goes hand in hand with being accurate. You can't lack either or you aren't a good NFL QB
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:02 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
In college accuracy is far, far more important because you can have a dominant offense built around the short passing game in the middle of the field.
In the NFL it's a tougher call because if you can't throw downfield effectively and stretch the field your offense will usually be ineffective in the modern league. Accuracy is probably still more important, but this is precisely why most spread QBs don't succeed in the league. They usually lack good arm strength and can't the deep and sideline throws.
In the NFL it's a tougher call because if you can't throw downfield effectively and stretch the field your offense will usually be ineffective in the modern league. Accuracy is probably still more important, but this is precisely why most spread QBs don't succeed in the league. They usually lack good arm strength and can't the deep and sideline throws.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There is a certain threshold that you have to meet in order to be able to play in the NFL but the difference between the #1 and #20 guy in terms of arm strength isn't as incrementally valuable as a lot of other traits. Accuracy is something that is much more of an easily distinguishable factor and therefore the added value is much more tangible.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's overvalued when evaluating prospects because most other things can be taught, but arm strength can't be learned.
Arm strength is vital as long as it's properly evaluated in context. A strong arm can benefit a good QB, but it does little to help a bad QB. A lot of times it can be a detriment to a bad QB because he will too often rely on his arm to overcome his other deficiencies.
Steve Walsh was the opposite. He had all the tools to be a good NFL QB, but didn't have the arm strength. He kept getting chances, but eventually teams gave up on him because he didn't have the arm strength.
Arm strength is vital as long as it's properly evaluated in context. A strong arm can benefit a good QB, but it does little to help a bad QB. A lot of times it can be a detriment to a bad QB because he will too often rely on his arm to overcome his other deficiencies.
Steve Walsh was the opposite. He had all the tools to be a good NFL QB, but didn't have the arm strength. He kept getting chances, but eventually teams gave up on him because he didn't have the arm strength.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's obviously important but I would say the least important of the major qualities needed to play QB.
Accuracy, pocket presence, and ability to read defenses all being more important.
Accuracy, pocket presence, and ability to read defenses all being more important.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:40 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Can they hit a 15-20 yard out pattern on the sideline....if yes, then arm strength is of no concern.. it's a throw not made very often but one that demonstrates required strength.. It also doesn't have to be a bullet but timed correctly.. it's the throw that cross references multiple measurables on the box and can be delivered differently..
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
An NFL qb must have enough arm strength to keep the safeties honest, and he must have enough strength to make passes to the wide side of the field.
That minimum strength is as important as any other ability. Danny Wuerffel had all the intelligence and pretty good accuracy, but he didn't succeed bc he didn't have the minimum strength necessary. There are other similar qbs, but he's the easiest to remember.
That minimum strength is as important as any other ability. Danny Wuerffel had all the intelligence and pretty good accuracy, but he didn't succeed bc he didn't have the minimum strength necessary. There are other similar qbs, but he's the easiest to remember.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There's a minimum amount of arm strength you have to have to be effective in the NFL. After that, there are a bunch of other things that are more important than the EXTRA arm strength.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 9:15 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Toughness is the other one I'd put over arm strength. A QB can have the strongest arm in the world, but if he gets happy feet and gets skittish because he's scared to get hit, he won't be any good
Posted on 7/2/17 at 9:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Johnny U went to shite once his arm went.
You don't have to be Namath or Favre but you have to be way above average.
There's no substitute; it can bail you out and give you more options...once your arm goes, you can't freelance and can't make a pass late.
Joe Montana never had a great arm but he had great timing. He was a rhythm QB.
So arm strength all depends on type of offense you are running.
And what era.
Montana and Brady didn't need arm strength because of short passes being the majority of their offense...and let the receivers do the work for them.
But arm strength mattered for the Pack and especially for the Rams in the 80's...and Raiders in the 80's when the offense was send everyone deep.
You don't have to be Namath or Favre but you have to be way above average.
There's no substitute; it can bail you out and give you more options...once your arm goes, you can't freelance and can't make a pass late.
Joe Montana never had a great arm but he had great timing. He was a rhythm QB.
So arm strength all depends on type of offense you are running.
And what era.
Montana and Brady didn't need arm strength because of short passes being the majority of their offense...and let the receivers do the work for them.
But arm strength mattered for the Pack and especially for the Rams in the 80's...and Raiders in the 80's when the offense was send everyone deep.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 10:24 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Probably more important in NFL than college due to the speed of the game, but never as important as the mental side
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