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Why the hate for KD and athletes in general for moving?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:28 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:28 am
I'll use KD cause he is the most recent example of this. Why does sports fandom have a culture of hating a player for making a career move. Nobody on this board would hesitate to change jobs in order to get more job satisfaction but we hate on athletes for doing it. KD and Bron have received the most hate for it but even in other sports we hate on players for taking the most money which is what anyone would do.
1. KD because of the NBA structure had no choice but to play his first 2 contracts in OKC unless he wanted to risk it in his 5th year on a one year deal.
2. When These guys don't win championships we criticize them for not getting it done and then when they move elsewhere to do it, people claim it's cheap cause they joined a "superteam"
3. Teams have ZERO loyalties to a player regardless of what he did for them. Hakeem was traded away, Shaq,Barkley. Manning and Montana in the NFL. We praise teams for making decisions that help them win but criticize players for it.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this and maybe debate it
1. KD because of the NBA structure had no choice but to play his first 2 contracts in OKC unless he wanted to risk it in his 5th year on a one year deal.
2. When These guys don't win championships we criticize them for not getting it done and then when they move elsewhere to do it, people claim it's cheap cause they joined a "superteam"
3. Teams have ZERO loyalties to a player regardless of what he did for them. Hakeem was traded away, Shaq,Barkley. Manning and Montana in the NFL. We praise teams for making decisions that help them win but criticize players for it.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this and maybe debate it
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:39 am to Raghavan
KD made the right choice for himself.
However, it fricked with the competitive balance of the NBA (see the playoffs). That's where, personally, it starts and stops. And hate is a strong word
However, it fricked with the competitive balance of the NBA (see the playoffs). That's where, personally, it starts and stops. And hate is a strong word
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:51 am to Raghavan
KD is getting more heat right now for wanting girls to fart in his face
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:54 am to Raghavan
Golden State made KD's arse quit. Then, he went and joined them. I hate the situation because it ruined competitive balance. Now, I'd okay with George joining the Cavs because that may restore some semblance balance.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:59 am to Raghavan
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Why the hate for KD and athletes in general for moving?
I've been interested in this as well. Most times, players get criticized for leaving a team for more money even if it means they're going some place where they almost certainly can't win anything but the paycheck they're going there for.
KD could have likely done this with other teams...simply headed out of OKC for a paycheck. It's pretty clear he wad done there for whatever reason.
What he did though was nearly the opposite of that, in that he headed some place he thought was the best fit and most likely to win as a team.
Honestly, except for the fact that it created a monster where there was already an incredible basis for calling it the best team in the league, I don't see his move as anything but kind of what you'd WANT from a player that's more interested in being a team guy rather than a selfish, just in it for the check, type of guy.
And as it turned out, KD being there was the biggest reason they ended up winning. He didn't just tag along but lead them to the ring.
The only other option it seems from a fan's perspective is to outlaw free agency entirely and simply force guys to stay put. If we bitch about check chasing AND ring chasing, what else is left? Going to a team for less money AND less chance to win?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:59 am to Raghavan
Nobody likes cowards; that's why. KD is a coward.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:00 am to Raghavan
After watching the Finals I would say that GS "needed" KD to win.
I think Cleveland wins this series in 4 or 5 games if he isn't there.
I think Cleveland wins this series in 4 or 5 games if he isn't there.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:02 am to Raghavan
Nobody hates KD. We all love him.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:11 am to Raghavan
I became a fan of KD he has that IDGAF attitude now and made a move he knew he would get slammed for. Bc it's what he wanted to do. Dude couldn't care less what everybody else thinks he was gonna do what made KD happy. that's a mans man kinda move.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:12 am to Raghavan
Scruffy is partial to the baseketball system where there are no trades or free agents. You play for the team that signed you for your entire career.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 8:13 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:01 am to Raghavan
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Teams have ZERO loyalties to a player regardless of what he did for them. Hakeem was traded away, Shaq,Barkley. Manning and Montana in the NFL. We praise teams for making decisions that help them win but criticize players for it.
True.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:03 am to Raghavan
Because traditionally the best players don't leave the team they were drafted by to play for a team that is already loaded. It is happening more and more now, because just like organizations, players ain't loyal.
Also, people can hate on KD all they want. Call Golden State a super team or whatever. At least they are acting like a bunch of spoiled, petulant children like the heat were when LeHairline went there. Nor did they have a pep rally when they signed KD. KD didn't start all the not 2, 3, or 4 shite. KD stfu, put in his work, and led his team to the ship.
Also, people can hate on KD all they want. Call Golden State a super team or whatever. At least they are acting like a bunch of spoiled, petulant children like the heat were when LeHairline went there. Nor did they have a pep rally when they signed KD. KD didn't start all the not 2, 3, or 4 shite. KD stfu, put in his work, and led his team to the ship.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:12 am to Raghavan
Sports fans use arbitrary reasons to arrive at most of their conclusions. There's no consistency to it. It's just if things go against the way they want then they find the justification afterwards.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:19 am to Raghavan
I like to judge athletes on their accomplishments, taking into account reasonable expectations. I like KD well enough, but for me, he's pretty much relegated himself to "that guy who was AMAZING," without much legacy.
Maybe legacy is the wrong word, but unless something changes, he'll have no lasting memories/moments with me.
For comparison, Lebron has MANY. Some even bad. But he's got them.
This move took the fun out of following KD's career progression.
Maybe legacy is the wrong word, but unless something changes, he'll have no lasting memories/moments with me.
For comparison, Lebron has MANY. Some even bad. But he's got them.
This move took the fun out of following KD's career progression.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:24 am to Raghavan
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Why the hate for KD and athletes in general for moving? by Raghavan
I can't speak for most but most hate on WHERE Durant went, not because he went. This premise is entirely flawed. For the hardcore NBA fans, it's a big frick you to their team's chances at competitive balance. For the casual fans, dude went and joined a 73 win team who just choked away the Finals. Not exactly a bold career decision.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:25 am to Raghavan
if he had gone to say the Knicks i dont think anyone would have batted an eyelash
the perception is that he took the easy way out to get a title which is unbecoming of whats supposed to be the 2nd best player in the league
the perception is that he took the easy way out to get a title which is unbecoming of whats supposed to be the 2nd best player in the league
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:50 am to Raghavan
We remember rings, the guys that join teams that were already poised to win one are the most logical guys in the room, not Durants fault that Paul George or Jimmy Butler didn't demand a trade to GS. They're not on Durant's skill level without a doubt but if either one had joined GS the assumption of a finals appearance would've been the same.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:22 am to Raghavan
Bc of jealousy and envy, for the rest of time KD's resume will read 2017 NBA Champion, 2017 NBA Finals MVP and people for some reason won't appreciate that. THIS IS THE FREE AGENCY CONTEXT THAT WAS CREATED DEAL WITH IT!
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:04 am to Raghavan
The main problem I think is fans knew it was going to make Golden State way too strong. It's frustrating to know your team has almost no chance at winning a championship and it's not too exciting to see the front runner just blow everyone away.
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