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Posted on 1/31/08 at 8:48 am to Rex
Tim Tebow should be on that list before Woodson!
Posted on 1/31/08 at 8:57 am to Rex
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He was phenomenal, feared, marquee, and dominated the headlines for two seasons.
Four seasons. Of course, he was only playing football for two of them.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 9:02 am to Rex
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Red Grange as number 1 is exactly correct. He legitimized the game as a national pastime.
well, first i'd had to know how many stars Rivals gave him coming out of HS
Posted on 1/31/08 at 9:10 am to dukke v
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Disagree!! Woodson had a better year and Mich would not have been close to a NC without him!!!!
PJ my man, stick with old school NFL stuff.
Woodson was a joke Heisman, the voters were just looking for a reason to not vote for Manning.
He Was CB in the Big freaking 10 a RUNNING conference, so he lined up a WR on a few plays and returned punts, big whoop.
UM had a great D that year, but they should consider themselves lucky there was no BCS that year because Nebraska would have skull fricked them.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 9:13 am to Godfather1
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The most egregious omission is OJ Simpson, who should be at about number 7. He was phenomenal, feared, marquee, and dominated the headlines for two seasons after murdering his ex-wife and a bystander.
Fixed it.
Let see Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman were murder in June of 1994, OJ won the Heisman in 1968, so how he dominate CFB AFTER those murders?
Whatever he did 25 years after his college career, doesn't change the fact he was one of the 25 greatest CFB players.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 9:15 am to Meauxjeaux
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And I think Emmett Smith was a Top 5 back all time in college.
Nah, top 5 all time SEC at best
Posted on 1/31/08 at 9:16 am to VABuckeye
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Jim Brown was an unbelievable football player. To say he doesn't belong on the list is ludicrous
its a list of CFB players, was Brown that great in college? He is the best player in NFL history and supposedly the best Lacrosse player ever, but I'm not sure about college.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:07 pm to H-Town Tiger
Archie's way too low. He should be top 10 at least, probably higher. Him being in the 20s is a joke.
This post was edited on 1/31/08 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:37 pm to el tigre
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If Tommy Frazier is not on the list, then it is a complete joke.
I second this emotion! VY over Tommie Frazier puhlease.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:43 pm to OhFace55
John Hannah is probably the greatest OLineman in college and NFL history, yet he didn't make the list?
That list is biased against lineman.
That list is biased against lineman.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:46 pm to Rex
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especially when he didn't even deserve the Heisman over Peyton Manning
Big game performances matter in the Heisman race. Go back to '97 when Peyton (0-4 career versus Florida) got humiliated by Florida's Tony George running back an interception 89 yards for the go ahead touchdown, 33-20 Florida wins. Woodson's biggest game of the year versus Ohio State was spectacular returning a punt for a TD and an interception, besides Michigan won the AP title that year.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:48 pm to FLBamafan
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That list is biased against lineman.
Yep, but then again, so is every award (MVP, ROY, Off.POY, etc.) I thought Orlando Pace could be on it, he did finish second (I believe) for the Heisman one year, which is OUTSTANDING for a lineman.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 4:59 pm to barry
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VY should not be #10, he had one, i repeat one great season, his others were mediocre at best.
By "others", do you mean the other one where he won the Rose Bowl MVP? The first one? To go along with his second one making him the grandaddy's only two time winner? Not to mention a gaudy W/L record his two years as a starter.
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Reggie had a better overall career than VY.
Reggie wasn't even the best RB in his own conference. That accolade went to a crosstown rival. Bush played for USC (aka, Notre Dame of the west) and he was a human highlight reel. Those two factors alone trick people into thinking his career was some sort of statistical jewel. It was not.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:02 pm to FLBamafan
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John Hannah is probably the greatest OLineman in college and NFL history, yet he didn't make the list?
That list is biased against lineman.
AGREED!!!!!! He was a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:03 pm to denvertiger
Ricky Williams was the best college running back I've seen with my own two eyes. A man among boys. His omission is a joke.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:06 pm to ZenFNmaster
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Ricky Williams was the best college running back I've seen with my own two eyes. A man among boys. His omission is a joke.
He wasn't as good as you think!! Campbell, Dorsett, Griffin, Simpson, Sims, Walker, Jackson, Sanders were all better!!!!
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:10 pm to denvertiger
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By "others", do you mean the other one where he won the Rose Bowl MVP
He's talking about other seasons, not just one bowl game. VY was spectacular in the 2005 Rose Bowl against UM, but that season he was not. He had 13 TD passes and 12 Ints. He was awesome his Jr year leading them to the BCSC, but there were legit questions about him going into that year, because before the 2005 season, he was ok, at best.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:11 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Archie's way too low. He should be top 10 at least, probably higher
You are just being a homer, the fact he won two Heisman's is not relavant. The Heisman always has been a popularity contest as much as anything.
Posted on 1/31/08 at 5:14 pm to Paul Allen
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Big game performances matter in the Heisman race
Media hype matters more.
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Go back to '97 when Peyton (0-4 career versus Florida
just for the sake of accuracy, Peyton was 0-3 vs. UF, he DNP against them his freshman year.
His Sr year, they did only lose 1 game and won the SEC
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