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Studios blaming critics/RT for Baywatch, Pirates not doing as well as expected
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:37 am
Make good movies and you won't have to worry about it
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"Insiders close to both films blame Rotten Tomatoes, with Pirates 5 and Baywatch respectively earning 32% and 19% Rotten. The critic aggregation site increasingly is slowing down the potential business of popcorn movies. Pirates 5 and Baywatch aren’t built for critics but rather general audiences, and once upon a time these types of films — a family adventure and a raunchy R-rated comedy — were critic-proof. Many of those in the industry severely question how Rotten Tomatoes computes the its ratings, and the fact that these scores run on [the movie-ticket buying site] Fandango (which owns RT) is an even bigger problem."
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This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
I'd have to agree....
Use to you'd watch a trailer and either wanna see it or not.....but now a lot of people let a bunch of nerds trying to make a name for themselves dictate whether they should see a certain film or not
Critics are snobs who think Bird Man is more entertaining than Pirates 5.....
Use to you'd watch a trailer and either wanna see it or not.....but now a lot of people let a bunch of nerds trying to make a name for themselves dictate whether they should see a certain film or not
Critics are snobs who think Bird Man is more entertaining than Pirates 5.....
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
I don't know why anyone wanting to pay to go see either of those movies would give a shite what the rotten tomato critic scores were anyway?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
Damn Hillary.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:43 am to Draconian Sanctions
Well, I'm an avid movie goer, and I didn't care to see either of these movies. Besides, RT has bashed the Transformers movies (at least the last three) pretty hard and those still made a ton of money. So there goes that theory.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:44 am to Draconian Sanctions
They're not totally wrong. Those tomato splats are everywhere. On my movie apps, on my Cox Contour screen...
Not a problem when a movie is really bad, but there are some middle of the road movies that get branded to be as bad as Deuce Bigalow II, just by having a splat next to their name.
Not a problem when a movie is really bad, but there are some middle of the road movies that get branded to be as bad as Deuce Bigalow II, just by having a splat next to their name.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:44 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Many of those in the industry severely question how Rotten Tomatoes computes the its ratings
Let me help you out there Mr. Conspiracy Theory Movie Industry Man
1 Critic liked your movie, another critic did not like your movie:
50% score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Hope this helps explain that devious site's complicated algorithm created to keep your movies from making money.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
But the opposite is true too, movies that would have skirted by into obscurity are brought to light by strong reviews
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
Critics are becoming snobs
If you look at the audience score for these movies it's vastly different than the critics scores
Baywatch 20% vs 70%
Pirates 31% vs 72%
you can add King Author movie to that list 29% vs 79%
Then you look at best picture winners
Moonlight 98% vs 80%
Birdman 91% vs 71% (edited originally had 81% here and that was wrong)
you can see that critics have lost touch with what audiences like. It sucks because you miss out on enjoyable movies that won't get follow ups because they got a low tomatoes score
John Carter comes to mind.
If you look at the audience score for these movies it's vastly different than the critics scores
Baywatch 20% vs 70%
Pirates 31% vs 72%
you can add King Author movie to that list 29% vs 79%
Then you look at best picture winners
Moonlight 98% vs 80%
Birdman 91% vs 71% (edited originally had 81% here and that was wrong)
you can see that critics have lost touch with what audiences like. It sucks because you miss out on enjoyable movies that won't get follow ups because they got a low tomatoes score
John Carter comes to mind.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
Meh. It's just the modern version of Roeper and Ebert. If you want to see a movie just go see it. Who cares what the 4chan basement dweller says.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
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raunchy R-rated comedy — were critic-proof.
Rotten Tomatoes has been fair to other R-rated comedies. The studio should have done a better job making Baywatch.
21 Jump Street - 85%
22 Jump Street - 84%
Neighbors -73%
Neighbors 2 - 62%
Bad Moms - 58%
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
Metacritic is more accurate
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Everyone in my theater loved Pirates. I can't speak for Baywatch, but with both of these films, it seems like something you should know what you're getting into when you buy a ticket.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
They aren't wrong about Rotten Tomatoes black/white way of computing scores. That being said, they should also be mad at the movie going public who doesn't understand how to use Rotten Tomatoes.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Rotten tomatoes gave Cocktail a 5%
They can all eat a dick
They can all eat a dick
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
always someone else's fault
Posted on 6/1/17 at 1:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Baywatch, kinda like Zoolander 2, waited way too long to be made. Probably would've done well 15-20 years ago.
King Arthur wasn't bad at all. Didn't deserve to bomb like it did.
King Arthur wasn't bad at all. Didn't deserve to bomb like it did.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It's pretty simple for me. I usually never see a movie opening weekend. I check the scores after a week. If it's above 80 then it may be worth a theatre trip, if below in 65-79 range possibly a renter. Then there's the added variable of how much it will pop on big screen.
Have zero fricks to give about critic review. If it's a witty movie then it's going to be comprised mostly of that audience anyhow.
Have zero fricks to give about critic review. If it's a witty movie then it's going to be comprised mostly of that audience anyhow.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I completely agree.
RT is absoluteky awful.
RT is absoluteky awful.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Pirates 5 and Baywatch aren’t built for critics but rather general audiences
I usually go off the audience score on RT anyway just for this reason.
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