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So now, in 2017, dairy is suddenly the devil.

Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6593 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:50 am
Just got lectured on how milk is horrible and humans should stop drinking it. Evidently the enlightened folks are now rejecting dairy entirely for a number of reasons: indigestibility (see Paleo Diet), presence of unhealthy hormones and antibiotics, inhumane treatment of dairy cows, global warming (I guess from cow farts?), etc. This girl's main argument was that her veganism was a "moral stance" based on our treatment of animals.

Somebody please educate me on why industrial meat and dairy production is suddenly a bad thing. Man has been milking cows for thousands of years. But suddenly folks have decided that we cannot exploit or eat anything with a face.

You can have my meat, my eggs, my milk, my ice cream, my butter, and my cheese when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. #MURICA #HUMANSUPREMACY #frickVEGANS
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55516 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:51 am to
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This girl

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veganism



Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38382 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:52 am to
I can't wait until there's a widespread narrative that studies show that plants have feelings.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10254 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:54 am to
A vegan who virtue signals? Get the frick outta here
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23832 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:55 am to
I've heard that it is responsible for the high rates of osteoporosis
Posted by LSUgirl4
Member since Sep 2009
39501 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:56 am to
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global warming (I guess from cow farts?



i drink milk a lot. i'm specific about the kind of milk i drink....
but your friend was referring to these facts:

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A widespread switch to vegetarianism would cut emissions by nearly two-thirds, it said.

In three decades, emissions related to agriculture and food production are likely to account for about half of the world’s available “carbon budget” - the limited amount of carbon dioxide and its equivalents that can be poured into the atmosphere if we are to hold global warming to no more than 2C.

While energy generation, transport and buildings have long been a target for governments, businesses and campaigners looking to reduce emissions, the impact from food production has often been left out. But on current trends, with intensive agriculture increasingly geared towards livestock rearing, food production will be a major concern.

The research, led by scientists at the Oxford Martin School, found that shifting to a mostly vegetarian diet, or even simply cutting down meat consumption to within accepted health guidelines, would make a large dent in greenhouse gases.

Adhering to health guidelines on meat consumption could cut global food-related emissions by nearly a third by 2050, the study found, while widespread adoption of a vegetarian diet would bring down emissions by 63%.

The additional benefit of going further, with the widespread adoption of veganism, brought a smaller incremental benefit, with emissions falling by about 70% in the projections.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 10:58 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:56 am to
According to the OT as of about a month ago, it's racist too. Something about how blacks don't get osteoporosis or something.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:59 am to
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presence of unhealthy hormones
This is undeniable, especially for people who suffer from acne or sinus issues. (processed dairy isn't a root cause of acne or sinus problems but it makes acne and sinus issue much much worse.) The main hormones are used to make cows grow 3-4 times faster and produce far more milk than normal.

It's not all of a sudden. You just haven't been paying attention for the last 2 decades. It's been an issue so long that we're already years past the point of nearly all chain stores such as Walmart, Publix, etc no longer getting milk from suppliers who use the worse of the hormones. You can easily google for specific information.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78315 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 10:59 am to
not a huge fan of milk but maybe once a month i'll eat some chocolate chip cookies and slam the hell out of a couple glasses. dats good.

but no, you cannot have my cheese or butter.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47661 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:00 am to
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This girl'


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You can have my meat


Pics of girl?
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2129 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:02 am to
Dairy is bad for you and agriculture is the biggest overall contributor to gas house emissions. Don't frick with it along with most of my fellow Boulderites
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:07 am to
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Man has been milking cows for thousands of years. But suddenly folks have decided that we cannot exploit or eat anything with a face.


A surprisingly small percentage of the global population can actually digest that lactose as adults.

Reality is that raising cattle for slaughter is terribly inefficient and a poor use of natural resources.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11099 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:08 am to
It's not sudden. Vegetarians and vegans have been around for thousands of years. Read a book.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77414 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:09 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:10 am to
So 'new to you' = 'it's suddenly a bad thing'
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:10 am to
A lot of MotherJones junk science on display in here...

FAKE NEWS
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:11 am to
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You can have my meat


Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33580 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:19 am to
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, dairy is suddenly the devil.
Nope. Butter and cream are the dream.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 5/23/17 at 11:24 am to
Ignore all these hippies and their junk science. Milk and dairy products are fine in moderation and are good sources of protein and vitamins.

Ignore their baseless talk about the dangers of hormones - you'll notice they leave out the fact that soy and flax and beans all have hormones in them, as well. Their agenda is not health, it is the same old hippie agenda - they want us to stop seeing their pal Bessie the Cow as lunch.

As for added hormones and antibiotics, research has largely determined the levels safe for consumption in dairy products.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 11:26 am
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