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re: Wonder Woman Tomatometer Watch Thread (219 reviews; 93%; 7.6/10) [NO SPOILERS]
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:15 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:15 am to RollTide1987
Well, we'll find out for sure what we have very soon. Until then, my optimism will remain little to none. I think most people would understand that. If you've found enough reasoning to be optimistic then that's great.
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:27 am to Fewer Kilometers
Umberto Gonzalez:
Erik Davis: Positive reviews of BvS and SS
Marc Andreyko: Paid by DC, writes for Wonder Woman, liked BvS and SS
Germain Lussier: Seems to be butthurt that people don't appreciate Snyder's effects in MoS, BvS
Got bored after looking through those
quote:
Batman vs Superman is the greatest comic book movie since the Dark Knight
Erik Davis: Positive reviews of BvS and SS
Marc Andreyko: Paid by DC, writes for Wonder Woman, liked BvS and SS
Germain Lussier: Seems to be butthurt that people don't appreciate Snyder's effects in MoS, BvS
Got bored after looking through those
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:41 am to TN Bhoy
I would think looking at those with negative BVS reviews and positive WW reviews a better indicator than picking out the ones that gave both a positive review or both a negative review.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:48 am to RollTide1987
I not only don't believe it's a good movie, I don't care.
I have lost all patience and faith with DC. It's too little, too late to make a good movie out of a character who is far and away less beloved than Superman and Batman.
That would be like if Marvel's first few movies were about Spider-Man and the X-Men (probably Marvel's most popular franchises before the MCU took off due to the '90s cartoons - and yes I realize Marvel would have to have the rights to those franchises) and those movies sucked absolute arse, and then making a good movie out of Thor and expecting people to give a shite. Particularly with a no name actress/actor who can't anchor the franchise. If Chris Hemsworth were the lynchpin of the MCU rather than RDJ, we'd be looking at a shitty MCU. If Gal Gadot is the lynchpin for the DCEU, they're in trouble.
I have lost all patience and faith with DC. It's too little, too late to make a good movie out of a character who is far and away less beloved than Superman and Batman.
That would be like if Marvel's first few movies were about Spider-Man and the X-Men (probably Marvel's most popular franchises before the MCU took off due to the '90s cartoons - and yes I realize Marvel would have to have the rights to those franchises) and those movies sucked absolute arse, and then making a good movie out of Thor and expecting people to give a shite. Particularly with a no name actress/actor who can't anchor the franchise. If Chris Hemsworth were the lynchpin of the MCU rather than RDJ, we'd be looking at a shitty MCU. If Gal Gadot is the lynchpin for the DCEU, they're in trouble.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:50 am to ThoseGuys
Is it back peddling, kubik been there since the beginning of messing the timeline and history. This is less a sjw cry against America and another tired take on Superior Spiderman. That made us money what can we do next?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:58 am to Fewer Kilometers
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“Wonder Woman is the DC movie I’ve been waiting for. It’s exciting, inspiring, funny, and has some truly awe-inspiring action scenes. There are certainly some issues, like a mismatched 3rd act, but I’ll discuss that in a longer review. Overall though, Wonder Woman rules.” – Germain Lussier, io9
I have no clue if the other critics are legit or not but I know of this guy and I trust him. I've listened to his opinion on many films for years and he's usually in line with what I think.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:59 am to abellsujr
quote:Those weren't critics. Those were people invited to an early showing. Of the tweets shown, one posts on MoviePilot.com and the other two are movie fans.
Never forget... Batman V Superman Premiere: Early Reactions Are Overwhelmingly Positive
Here's another Mera.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:00 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:Link?
I will add that I've also read many critics didn't like the film, and they're the ones that aren't tweeting.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:11 am to Murray
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I have no clue if the other critics are legit or not but I know of this guy and I trust him. I've listened to his opinion on many films for years and he's usually in line with what I think.
Just look at the last page of comments. These little girls don't care if the film is well received or not. The simple quote of "Revolutionary film for women" from ONE critic drove them over their snowflake edge. It is the first female lead in a modern comic book film, it's a DCEU film, it is a revolutionary character and is getting praised... and these girls are losing their minds. The flock is rustled.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 4:53 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:16 am to Fewer Kilometers
A writer for mashable.com is saying he spoke to many critics who didn't like it after his screening. 3rd act was pretty bad, supposedly. Some of them aren't tweeting reactions, and he also said some people he talked to who said some negative things are being more positive on on social media now. Thinks once the embargo is up the reviews will be very mixed. That's his initial reaction. TIFWIW.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:19 am to BigAppleTiger
You seem a bit rustled yourself.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:20 am to RLDSC FAN
There have already been critics who have said the 3rd act is choppy and some who have said the first 30 minutes is slow... and still been high in their praise. Nobody is saying it's perfect- just good. Of course there will be critics that don't like it- as I would expect in any film. But first indications are that it is enjoyable.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:21 am to BigAppleTiger
Those twitter reviews smell of snowflake liberal jihad nonsense
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:22 am to BigAppleTiger
Agreed. I hope it's awesome, I'm rooting for DC. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, I'm just adding what I've read.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:24 am to BigAppleTiger
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Just look at the last page of comments. These little girls don't care if the film is well received or not. The simple quote of "Revolutionary film for women" from ONE critic drove them over their snowflake edge. It is the first female lead in a modern comic book film, it's a DCEU film, it is a revolutionary character and is getting praised... and these girls are losing their minds. The flock is rustled.
After the Ghostbusters (and you can throw in Beauty and the Beast) bullshite, I think it's legitimate for people to be wary of critics waving away a film's flaws because of its 'revolutionary' premise/take/character.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:30 am to RLDSC FAN
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A writer for mashable.com is saying he spoke to many critics who didn't like it after his screening. 3rd act was pretty bad, supposedly. Some of them aren't tweeting reactions, and he also said some people he talked to who said some negative things are being more positive on on social media now. Thinks once the embargo is up the reviews will be very mixed. That's his initial reaction. TIFWIW.
Link? Mashable is one of the main sites touting that everything is rosy.
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It's time to spin around and put your wrists together because the studio embargo for social media reactions to Wonder Woman lifted on Thursday night, and the small group of film writers who got to see it lassoed up this fun truth: Wonder Woman is pretty great. Mashable was among them, and a full review will post in the coming days. But writers were allowed to tweet short reactions, almost all of them glowing like Themyscerian battle armor. Some were relieved. Others ecstatic. And not a rotten tomato in the whole bushel.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:32 am to magildachunks
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So D.C. Finally went the Marvel model and made superheroes fun?
I don't think we need another Marvel Universe with a lot of flashy colors and little to no substance.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:34 am to TN Bhoy
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I think it's legitimate for people to be wary of critics waving away a film's flaws because of its 'revolutionary' premise/take/character.
And we know how much Mad Max: Fury Road sucked after all the praise for the women in THAT stinker!
Here's another Mera.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:40 am to BigAppleTiger
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Just look at the last page of comments. These little girls don't care if the film is well received or not. The simple quote of "Revolutionary film for women" from ONE critic drove them over their snowflake edge.
It's a discussion board, people chat about things big and small. Pulling out a quote is nothing but making a comment about something specific. No one specifically said the movie is bad because of the quote, just that such a comment in today's day and age is problematic.
And if you want to get deeper, "not a good sign" doesn't mean it's a bad sign for the film, it means it's a bad sign for discussion ABOUT the film. People are going to get stuck there and actual discussion will be hampered by "revolutionary" femininity. I wasn't talking about film quality
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It is the first female lead in a modern comic book film, it's a DCEU film, it is a revolutionary character and is getting praised... and these girls are losing their minds. The flock is rustled.
Catwoman. Elektra. Mystique/Lawrence basically took over the X-Men films.
All post-X-Men which is the modern comic book film run. That's not to mention stuff like V, Ghost World, Sucker Punch, etc.
The goal of using that kind of line in the first place is to impede the ability to actually talk about it.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:43 am to Fewer Kilometers
From that link you posted...
I hope the movies great, but I'm not gonna get excited over some tweets.
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And me? I struggled with some of the movie's clunky transitions, and the villain(s) are, once again, underdeveloped and under-served. Wonder Woman isn't perfect, but Gal Gadot is perfect as Wonder Woman.
I will say this: There are many writers who were at the first wave of screenings who didn't tweet a reaction. I read that as "didn't like it all that much," because that's how a lot of us handle an averse reaction — stay mum.
And I spoke with several writers at the screening who weren't crazy about it, or who have since tweeted more elevated praise than what they were thinking at the time. The movie does get better in your memory though, and let's face it — great leads with great chemistry go a really, really long way when it comes to your long-term perceptions of a film.
Bottom line: When the embargo for full reviews lifts, watch the percentages of sentiment shift.
I hope the movies great, but I'm not gonna get excited over some tweets.
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