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re: Stephen A talking about Cp3 and the Pelicans
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:30 pm to corndeaux
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:30 pm to corndeaux
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i love Cousins's game. i love Davis (sidebar- while arguably the best big in the league, he is most certainly not a top 3 player in the NBA. its 2017: if you cant create effectively for yourself and teammates you aren't in that discussion)
Name 2 other players (besides LeGOAT) that are better than him when taking into consideration playing both defense AND offense...I'll wait...
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:45 pm to LSUperior
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Name 2 other players (besides LeGOAT) that are better than him when taking into consideration playing both defense AND offense...I'll wait...
durant
leonard
george
westbrook
butler
that's 5
re-read what corndeaux wrote
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if you cant create effectively for yourself and teammates you aren't in that discussion)
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:57 pm to LSUperior
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Name 2 other players (besides LeGOAT) that are better than him when taking into consideration playing both defense AND offense...I'll wait...
KD and Kawhi easily
Russell Westbrook. Twice now he has led shitty teams to 45+ wins. AD can't seem to win more than 34 with his shitty teams.
Steph Curry's offense is so elite that it makes up for his defense, which isn't as bad as people assume
Kyrie Irving, same as Curry
Jimmy Butler
and if i was picking today, for one year, i'd take CP3 over AD. I don't care what anyone says about CP3 and his lack of success, he has always shown up in the playoffs. Same can't be said for his teammates. I have more faith in CP3 closing a team out than AD.
AD, while he's gotten to be a better scorer on offense, has never taken that step where he pulls his team to victory in the closing minutes of games. The Pels have one of the worst records in the NBA when it comes to games decided by a few points in the closing minutes. They don't have a closer, and for whatever reason, AD hasn't learned yet how to be that closer consistently. You don't have to make all the shots every night to be the closer, but you need to have a large say in how the game ends, whether you're taking the shots or you are finding open teammates.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 5:47 pm to LSUperior
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Name 2 other players (besides LeGOAT) that are better than him when taking into consideration playing both defense AND offense
just going to toss Giannis out there since no one else did.
more to the point, that 2 way criteria is very different than
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a top 3 player
James Harden is a top 3 player in the NBA. yet no one will say he is a better 2 way player than Davis.
Davis is phenomenal. he is a superior talent. he is an all-NBA performer. he's still at a disadvantage in these discussions b/c of position/skill set.
it's funny that so many people in this thread are trashing Griffin; if Davis had peak Griffin's passing skills and floor game...
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I wouldn't trade Davis for any of those players
fun parlor game- who would you trade Davis for?
obviously LeBron- don't care how old he is. that dude is an instant title shot. what about the other 3 MVP contenders this year?
real tough one for me- Giannis. i think i would move Davis for Giannis
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