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re: Chicago Airport Policeman Suspended after Dragging Man off Plane
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:07 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:07 pm to I B Freeman
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They could have paid UBER to take their crew there if they wanted too!! They could have give $800 to their employees and told them to drive.
There are a lot of stupid people in this thread. Do you have any idea how much it costs an airline to have to cancel a flight from Louisville with 200 pax, plus subsequent flights that are affected?
The only reasonable answer is to offer to buy people off, or remove some, per the terms of service, if no one accepts.
The ONLY issue here is that the cop beat the guy up.
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:10 pm to NC_Tigah
None of this will hit them in their pockets with any significance.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:13 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
The ONLY issue here is that the cop beat the guy up.
The cop is the only one in this scenario that isn't an a-hole.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well now, that's a different issue.
None of this will hit them in their pockets with any significance.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Well now, that's a different issue.
Not really. Negative attention is only financially negative if they lose money.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:54 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:54 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:
There are a lot of stupid people in this thread. Do you have any idea how much it costs an airline to have to cancel a flight from Louisville with 200 pax, plus subsequent flights that are affected?
Much more than it would have cost to just offer more money to get a passenger to volunteer, or even calling a air charter service to fly the crew to Louisville, either of which would have been reasonable solutions that would not have resulted in the video of the guy being shown repeatedly on every major new outlet.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:00 pm to Chrome
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I'm kinda interested in what percentage they expect not to show up. Anyone here
I'm almost positive it's not a straight percentage. The algorithms are probably similar in complexity to the pricing process. And probably completely related.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:05 pm to anc
I still don't see how this happened. I would think United would be offering thousands of dollars and freebies before they would reach the decision to forcibly remove someone. It seems like they skipped steps 3-9 and went right to step 10. I mean $800 is nothing.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:05 pm to the808bass
United is pleased to announce new seating options for our passengers:
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:08 pm to beaverfever
According to Reddit, someone said they'd deplane for $1200 and the United rep laughed at them.
So, $400. That's what United decided this was worth fighting over.
So, $400. That's what United decided this was worth fighting over.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:09 pm to the808bass
One more.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:12 pm to anc
I heard on the news hey can offer up to $1500. Iguesantee two things. First, they didn't offer that. Second, it will cost them a LOT more in a settlement and lost revenue.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:59 am to the808bass
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I'm kinda interested in what percentage they expect not to show up. Anyone here
I'm almost positive it's not a straight percentage. The algorithms are probably similar in complexity to the pricing process. And probably completely related.
Actually the study each individual flight to see how many do not show up for a particular flight. Then off that average they will overbook. So, the number is different for every flight.
For instance...if a flight has 12 people not show up on a regular basis they will typically overbook by "X" amount. (Not sure if they overbook by that same 12 or fewer.) Another flight might only overbook by 1.
Airlines very rarely will overbook first class. I have seen it happen, but it is very, very rare.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:04 am to BobBoucher
quote:
I heard on the news hey can offer up to $1500. Iguesantee two things. First, they didn't offer that. Second, it will cost them a LOT more in a settlement and lost revenue.
Don't believe everything you hear on the news. They are rarely correct, and deal in generalities. It used to be different amounts depending on the cost of the flight, etc. But there was a cap according to the flight as to how much they can offer. And they will offer less, then if they do not get to the cap increase the offer. They will not hesitate to offer the cap in order to get a volunteer.
Since they did not go higher than $800, I would suspect that was the cap for that flight.
The settlement will probably be along the lines of a couple of free tickets anywhere on their route system and some cash, but it won't be anywhere near the money I have seen people throw around on here. It will be much closer to the $800 offer they initially made.
People, I am sure, have brought airlines to court over this before. I can assure you, the doctor will lose if he takes them to court. The ticket is a contract, and the airline stayed within that contract. Could it have been handled better? yes. No doubt. But they could have had the doctor arrested for refusing to leave the aircraft.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:07 am to BobBoucher
quote:
heard on the news hey can offer up to $1500.
They can offer whatever they want. They are mandated to pay 400% of the ticket, capped at like $1300.
Odds are $800 is in the ballpark for a short flight
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:10 am to DawgsLife
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People, I am sure, have brought airlines to court over this before. I can assure you, the doctor will lose if he takes them to court. The ticket is a contract, and the airline stayed within that contract. Could it have been handled better? yes. No doubt. But they could have had the doctor arrested for refusing to leave the aircraft.
How much would it cost to take this case to court for United? You can break that down to actual costs plus the costs of negative PR. They're going to do everything in their power to settle this case. And it won't be for $805.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:14 am to DawgsLife
quote:
Don't believe everything you hear on the news.
What about Reddit?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:18 am to the808bass
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How much would it cost to take this case to court for United? You can break that down to actual costs plus the costs of negative PR. They're going to do everything in their power to settle this case. And it won't be for $805.
Don't count on it. Negative PR? this is something that happens every single day. (People being bumped) How often have you heard about it, or have given it much thought?
I am not defending how it was handled. I am just saying that by next week people won't remember it, or even give it a second thought.
quote:
They're going to do everything in their power to settle this case.
And they will probably stay within the terms I have stated in a couple of threads. I have seen people guessing 5 and 6 figures. I can assure you, that is not going to happen....unless there is a whole lot more to this story than we are being told.
ETA
As for court costs? They have a whole staff of lawyers that work for them...I promise. Those lawyers will be paid whether this goes to court or not. IF the doctor goes to a lawyer and the lawyer looks at the facts, he will tell the doctor he cannot win. He might have a case for excessive force against the officer....maybe...maybe not.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Don't believe everything you hear on the news.
What about Reddit?
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