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re: Chicago Airport Policeman Suspended after Dragging Man off Plane
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:20 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:20 am to DawgsLife
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I am just saying that by next week people won't remember it, or even give it a second thought.
I doubt most will give it much thought today. They'll do what they always do. They'll find the cheapest flight for the times and seats they want.
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I doubt most will give it much thought today. They'll do what they always do. They'll find the cheapest flight for the times and seats they want.
Absolutely correct. Of all the people that will even hear of this, very few will even be flying, anyway.
Here is a test......go out today and ask 10 people if they have heard about the doctor that was forcibly removed from an aircraft. if they say yes, ask them what airline pulled him off. Most will not have heard about it, and of those that have few of them will remember the name of the airline. Add to that, most people will think, "This will never happen to me." And they would be right.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:27 am to DawgsLife
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Don't count on it. Negative PR? this is something that happens every single day. (People being bumped) How often have you heard about it, or have given it much thought?
No. It doesn't happen every day. You're conflating people being bumped with people being dragged off a plane by police on video in order for the airline's own employees to fly. That doesn't happen every day.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:39 am to the808bass
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No. It doesn't happen every day. You're conflating people being bumped with people being dragged off a plane by police on video in order for the airline's own employees to fly. That doesn't happen every day.
I worked for a major carrier for 33 1/2 years. I'm telling you, it does. Dragged off? Probably not. Removed from an aircraft? it does. I will go one step farther and say that security is called to remove someone from an aircraft somewhere in the United States every single day.
ETA
Don't get hung up on it being for their own employees. You guys act like the employees were going on vacation. They were going to get another aircraft full of passengers to its destination.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 7:40 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:39 am to DawgsLife
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but if he tries to sue he will not win
Depends on how you define winning, he may consider it a victory just to keep it in the news cycle and have the video get millions of more hits over a long time span.
This likely scares UA far more than any jury verdict, they will settle with a quickness for this reason alone.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:41 am to NoSaint
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They can get 400% of their one way air, capped at that, legally
Wrong, there is no cap as to what they can pay, only what they are required to pay is capped, huge difference.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:43 am to cave canem
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Depends on how you define winning, he may consider it a victory just to keep it in the news cycle and have the video get millions of more hits over a long time span.
News cycle? This is not the first time something like this has happened. I have never seen it in the news.
If it does show up in the news, it will be no more than a blurb on a local news channel. Think about it. How many times have you seen a story like this on the news? maybe a quick story about it happening, then you never hear of it again. Airlines are sued all the time for a lot of things. You probably will not see this on the news.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:46 am to DawgsLife
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If it does show up in the news, it will be no more than a blurb on a local news channel.
Do you not have access to TV?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:47 am to cave canem
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Wrong, there is no cap as to what they can pay, only what they are required to pay is capped, huge difference.
While this is probably correct, the airline will usually set their own cap. They set guidelines for the employees (Gate agents, supervisors, etc) to go by. I would imagine in an extreme case, they could call someone way up in the chain of command and get this cap lifted, or raised.
Like I said...I am not defending how it was handled. Just whether the airline was within their rights, and clarifying how things work.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:49 am to DawgsLife
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I worked for a major carrier for 33 1/2 years.
You didn't have to tell us.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:49 am to the808bass
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Do you not have access to TV?
And you see stuff like this all the time, right?
As I said, and you ignored. You might see an initial blurb on a story, but after that you will rarely see anything more. Typically, if you see more it will be because a celebrity is involved. But for you to think it will significantly impact United in some negative way? You are wrong.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:49 am to DawgsLife
quote:I was flipping through multiple news channels on 30 minute drive, and the story was brought up on at least 2 of them.
If it does show up in the news, it will be no more than a blurb on a local news channel.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:52 am to the808bass
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I worked for a major carrier for 33 1/2 years.
You didn't have to tell us.
Look, I'm sorry if I offended you. That was not my intention. I am simply laying out what can/will happen and what will not based upon my experience. A lot of people are throwing out stuff that simply is not correct based on their personal feelings of the situation. Anybody that thinks the doctor is going to get a 5 or 6 figure settlement is way off base. It simply will not happen.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:54 am to buckeye_vol
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I was flipping through multiple news channels on 30 minute drive, and the story was brought up on at least 2 of them.
And you probably will hear nothing else about it after this week. You MIGHT hear something today or tomorrow, then it will go away.
Somehow, I get the feeling that you guys think I am defending United. I am not. They should have handled it better. But from a legal standpoint, they did nothing wrong.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:55 am to DawgsLife
quote:Why not? Although I'm sure it will rebound, their stock is down almost a half of a billion in pre-market trading. They will want this to go away, and a settlement is a good way to do that.
Anybody that thinks the doctor is going to get a 5 or 6 figure settlement is way off base. It simply will not happen.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:00 am to DawgsLife
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Look, I'm sorry if I offended you.
You didn't. You're stuck in the minutiae of the contract. United doesn't want to get on the stand and say "We don't have to do shite."
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:02 am to DawgsLife
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And you probably will hear nothing else about it after this week. You MIGHT hear something today or tomorrow, then it will go away.
Unless it goes to trial. Then a year from now, the media will recycle the video. Because that's what we've conditioned them to do.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 8:02 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:02 am to the808bass
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You didn't. You're stuck in the minutiae of the contract. United doesn't want to get on the stand and say "We don't have to do shite."
And they wouldn't. They would point out what the contract says and what they are legally required to do.
They would then point out the hundreds and possibly thousands of other passengers that could be inconvenienced if they did not get their crew to the grounded airplane.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:04 am to DawgsLife
Aight gramps.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:23 am to DawgsLife
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Like I said...I am not defending how it was handled. Just whether the airline was within their rights, and clarifying how things work.
What you are to obtuse to comprehend is it matters not one bit at this point if UA was within their rights.
They have squandered tens of millions they spent building goodwill through advertising, created a huge PR problem, about to have to remove millions of more dollars of impaired goodwill off their financial statements, and are facing a potential reduction in ticket sales and a twitter war.
You also fail to comprehend how the news cycles chase around whatever video has gone viral these days, it aint 1972 anymore.
This likely is even going to be a high point on the Sunday news shows for a week or so.
UA will pay him whatever he wants to shut up and go away, or the stock holders will find a new CEO that will.
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