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re: Biology, Chemist and Biochemist OTers: Help me understand weight loss.

Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:08 am to
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:08 am to
My understanding isn't necessarily that you will burn glucose first. It is just an "easier" source of fuel. It can be broken down into energy more quickly. Therefore, at higher rates of physical exertion, you will burn glucose energy stores. When you run low, you get that bonked/drained feeling and you have no more fuel in the tank (fat can't break down fast enough to supply the energy). At lower rates of energy exertion, your body can run on fat energy stores. It's all about your heart rate and metabolic zone.

This is where people see that "fat burning zone" on the treadmill and think they need to work out in that zone to burn their fat. That's not necessarily a truthful idea. You don't lose weight 'better' just because you burned fat in that zone. You are just utilizing that as a source of energy at that level of physical exertion. In the end, you burned X amount of calories. If you burned X amount of calories in the "glucose burning zone" you'd have done the same amount of good in terms of weight loss. The source of energy just becomes more important in endurance sports like running a marathon or something.

I don't claim to be an expert. My input is about as good as any other bro-science out there. Just from a different perspective when researching running/triathlon nutrition.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:17 am
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:28 am to
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My understanding isn't necessarily that you will burn glucose first. It is just an "easier" source of fuel. It can be broken down into energy more quickly. Therefore, at higher rates of physical exertion, you will burn glucose energy stores. When you run low, you get that bonked/drained feeling and you have no more fuel in the tank (fat can't break down fast enough to supply the energy). At lower rates of energy exertion, your body can run on fat energy stores. It's all about your heart rate and metabolic zone.

This is where people see that "fat burning zone" on the treadmill and think they need to work out in that zone to burn their fat. That's not necessarily a truthful idea. You don't lose weight 'better' just because you burned fat in that zone. You are just utilizing that as a source of energy at that level of physical exertion. In the end, you burned X amount of calories. If you burned X amount of calories in the "glucose burning zone" you'd have done the same amount of good in terms of weight loss. The source of energy just becomes more important in endurance sports like running a marathon or something.

I don't claim to be an expert. My input is about as good as any other bro-science out there. Just from a different perspective when researching running/triathlon nutrition.


Pretty much this. Ketosis isn't going to help you lose weight faster, it is a state of fuel burning for the body. Most people burn glucose because we constantly dump excess sugar/complex carbs into our system and we do not give our bodies a chance to rid ourselves of it.

Think of it as stages of fuel - The body prefers burning fat but must rid itself of other, maybe harmful, fuels first. The body burns ethanol off first and foremost as it can be poisonous. Then switches to glucose until it is in safe levels in the bloodstream. Once glucose levels are safe, it will switch and run off fat.

We carry fat around on our bodies as a storage tank for fuel in case of emergencies. It is much easier and efficient to carry around that much energy in fat than any other substance. Protein is extremely taxing on the body to break down. Gluconeogenesis is a demand driven pathway that wont start unless it absolutely needs to - it is not supply driven. Hormones are very important to have corrected because they will determine fat storage. Basically, if your body doesn't recognize the fat on you, it wants to store more.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:49 am to
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This is where people see that "fat burning zone" on the treadmill and think they need to work out in that zone to burn their fat. That's not necessarily a truthful idea. You don't lose weight 'better' just because you burned fat in that zone.


A lot of this is actually related to cortisol production. Cortisol is a stress hormone that gets released with certain levels of exertion, and can lead to fat retention.

It's why a 60 minute walk may have more fat loss benefits than a 30 minute run.

The run is stressful on the body and triggers cortisol production while a moderate walk never hits that zone.

ETA: For the ignorant down voter that is too dumb to even formulate a response. This is one of the main reasons that calories in < calories out fails after a couple of months for people needing to lose large amounts of weight. Our bodies are really good at not starving and losing weight. This is one of the ways it adapts.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 9:04 am
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