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re: Why can't people understand that socialized medicine will ultimately fail?

Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:24 am to
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:24 am to
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Because they are not driven by logic and facts. They are driven by emotion.

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Ball game. My uncle's best friend from England died due to the socialized medicine over there. He had to wait 6 months for a doctor's appt. When the time came for his appt, they called and asked if he had any new symptoms. When he said no, they canceled his appointment. Unbeknownst to him, his emphysema had developed into lung cancer. by the time he saw a doctor, it was stage 4. frick socialized medicine!
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 8:38 am to
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Ball game. My uncle's best friend from England died due to the socialized medicine over there. He had to wait 6 months for a doctor's appt. When the time came for his appt, they called and asked if he had any new symptoms. When he said no, they canceled his appointment. Unbeknownst to him, his emphysema had developed into lung cancer. by the time he saw a doctor, it was stage 4. frick socialized medicine!

That's a pretty shitty scenario, but it sounds like smoking killed your uncle's best friend. Also, emphysema cannot "turn into" lung cancer. He had emphysema and also developed lung cancer. The diseases have completely different processes and one cannot lead to the other, though they can have a common cause (probably smoking, since smoking is the leading cause of both emphysema and lung cancer).

I'm guessing it was smoking because the second leading cause of lung cancer, radon gas exposure, does not cause emphysema.

With that said, he should have been diagnosed sooner because it sounds like he was a high risk individual and should have been screened for lung cancer more thoroughly. It probably wouldn't have saved his life though... I'm not sure if patients with emphysema are surgical candidates. He was in very bad shape, from the sound of it.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:06 am to
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My uncle's best friend from England died due to the socialized medicine over there

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

My grandmother from Louisiana died due to privatized medicine over here. She was having a pacemaker put in, and when they looed up the tables to see what her life expectancy should be at 65, the table told them she could be expected to live 10 more years, so they only put a ten-year battery in. 11 years later when the battery failed, she was still driving, still preparing dinner for her elderly friends, and still travelling to visit her great grandchildren. The doctors determined, however, that she wouldn't survive the surgery to replace the battery, so they didn't. And she died.

Apparently no one cares about our privatized death panels, they just care about make-believe government ones.

But anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:59 am to
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When the time came for his appt, they called and asked if he had any new symptoms. When he said no, they canceled his appointment. Unbeknownst to him, his emphysema had developed into lung cancer. by the time he saw a doctor, it was stage 4. frick socialized medicine!

Cancer patients in the US have longer survival rates than cancer patients in the UK. In fact, cancer patients in the US live longer than just about every other nation in the world, specifically nations throughout Europe.

Let's let the Democrats run our healthcare and turn that trend around!
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