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re: Does anyone remember the 1950s or 60s?

Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:46 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:46 am to
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apples and oranges
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:52 am to
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is McCarthy actually had evidence against most of the people he accused.
He actually had evidence against the majority of the tens of thousands of people accused? Specifically, did he have evidence that they were actually foreign operatives, not just a self-identified communist like Lucille Ball?
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:55 am to
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Specifically, did he have evidence that they were actually foreign operatives, not just a self-identified communist like Lucille Ball?
You didn't live in those times, did you? To be a self-identified Communist then was to also be open to be either an active or passive agent of Soviet Communism. And anti-American.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:00 am to
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To be a self-identified Communist then was to also be open to be either an active or passive agent of Soviet Communism. And anti-American.
Thought policing is throughly anti-American. And anti-American activities of the government are way worse than those Anti-American activities, that weren't related to actual espionage.

I find it terrifying that people think it's justifiable to target citizens because of their ideological believes, whether they are terrible or not.
Posted by boomertoomer
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:03 am to
i lived during those times, also
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:04 am to
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Thought policing is throughly anti-American. And anti-American activities of the government are way worse than those Anti-American activities, that weren't related to actual espionage.

I find it terrifying that people think it's justifiable to target citizens because of their ideological believes, whether they are terrible or not.




Think what you like, but when you are in positions of power that can subvert American minds and ideals, you need to be exposed for what you are and what you're doing, and THAT is exactly what they did. History has vindicated Senator McCarthy. That's a fact.


Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:06 am to
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He actually had evidence against the majority of the tens of thousands of people accused? Specifically, did he have evidence that they were actually foreign operatives, not just a self-identified communist like Lucille Ball?


Ten of thousands of specific individuals and their names? Not suire of that number. What are you basing it on?
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:08 am to
x 1000

McCarthyism changed the dialogue.

socialism became a dirty word.

Nixon was trained up. Nixon was McCarthy's sidekick.

Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:11 am to
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Thought policing is throughly anti-American.
Yes it is. Please give that memo to today's PC Prog Left and their media minions. Thank you.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:11 am to
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socialism became a dirty word.


Thats why they changed it to "liberal", and then to "progressive". There's something to learn about that. If something is good and viable, why the need to change the name? It's like a criminal who needs to create alias once their dirty deeds become known.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:12 am to
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but when you are in positions of power that can subvert American minds and ideals, you need to be exposed for what you are and what you're doing
So the only way to preserve our ideals, was to institute government overreach that were fundamentally opposed to our core ideals? You sound like progressives.
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History has vindicated Senator McCarthy.
I mean it doesn't take a genius to infer that a foreign enemy would attempt to infiltrate its enemy's government. So you're essentially vindicating his anti-American actions because he stated something very obvious.

Well at least we know you're a nanny stater with progressive ideals.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:13 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:13 am to
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Yes it is. Please give that memo to today's PC Prog Left and their media minions. Thank you.
Well I agree so I hope some of them are reading this so they can get the message.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:18 am to
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I mean it doesn't take a genius to infer that a foreign enemy would attempt to infiltrate its enemy's government. So you're essentially vindicating his anti-American actions because he stated something very obvious. Well at least we know you're a nanny stater with progressive ideals.


You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:20 am to
McCarthy was right. The Soviet Archives have confirmed this.


Communist infiltration of America is what led us to the Obama years.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:23 am to
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So the only way to preserve our ideals, was to institute government overreach that were fundamentally opposed to our core ideals? You sound like progressives.



American needs to know who and what they are dealing with. Subversion from a people who learned valuable lessons in how to affectively spread propaganda from their dealings in WWII are a very serious threat to this country, and it's proven itself that by the people in this country today who've been fed a constant diet of that drivel their entire lives from Holllywood, and the Media especially. People like that hide behind veils of entertainment and news to appear innocuous, and so must have their curtain removed so that people understand what is going on. Nobody is going to prison unless they broke the law, but if you want to me to cry for those people brought before congress, then you've got another thing coming. I celebrate him, because he spoke the truth, and history since then has proven him dead on.


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:26 am to
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what Democrats are doing now?

Are the Democrats trying to make it illegal to be a member of a political party?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:26 am to
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
Well then enlighten me Dale.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:33 am to
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People like that hide behind veils of entertainment and news to appear innocuous, and so must have their curtain removed so that people understand what is going on.
Sure. But the government shouldn't use unconstitutional methods to do this.
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I celebrate him, because he spoke the truth, and history since then has proven him dead on.
Well I guess if he was "right" then that excuses his unconstitutional methods. That whole first amendment isn't a big deal or anything.

But it's good to know who doesn't hold the Constitution as the Supreme law of the land.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:35 am to
I was born in 61',so I know about what went on then about like you do.

We've been told growing up,through School that Russia is the Bad Guy.

We're good.They're bad.

It seems to still be something with some weight to it.

And,I see what the Democrats are doing as borderline Treason.They're only using the "Russia" narrative because it seems to still get a rise out of a lot of folks.jmo
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