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Does anyone remember the 1950s or 60s?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:08 am
Was McCarthyism as bad as what Democrats are doing now?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:10 am to DyeHardDylan
I was a tyke at that time period. Hopefully having air conditioning at some point was the only thing I was concerned about.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:11 am to DyeHardDylan
Considering that McCarthy was actually right about Russian subversion and infiltration of government, I'd say this is much crazier.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:14 am to DyeHardDylan
quote:
Does anyone remember the 1940s or 50s?
FTFY
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:15 am to DyeHardDylan
quote:no, mcCarthy was 100% correct about the communists infiltrating hollywood,the press and our government....history proves him out....the democrats are the enemy and resemble NAZI's more than they do communists, and the goal is to destroy the constitution of the US....they have to be stopped by any means necessary, and i mean ANY means
Was McCarthyism as bad as what Democrats are doing now?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:15 am to DyeHardDylan
quote:
Was McCarthyism as bad as what Democrats are doing now?
McCarthyism for a period was worse. It is apples and oranges any way.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:16 am to DyeHardDylan
What's going on now is chump change compared to McCarthy and the red scare. All you need to do is to look up the history.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:17 am to WhiskeyPapa
quote:bullshite !!! were you around during that time?...didn't think so
McCarthyism for a period was worse
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:17 am to DyeHardDylan
quote:A different time. A different media. A different population and government norms. Direct answer - no it was not as bad. It was not laced with deliberate lies. It was not one party seeking to dominate all others. It was motivated by a view of Communism and Communists' subversive intent toward the US and our way of life. Was Joe McCarthy sometimes a blunt instrument? Yes, sometimes. But was he subversive? No. Never. And he was definitely on to something. Which is why the Red and pink fellow travelers of the day sought to discredit him. And why their elite descendents today do what they do. Joe almost got 'em then. They don't want Trump to finish his work.
Was McCarthyism as bad as what Democrats are doing now?
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:17 am to TGFN57
Way before my time but I have to think the 60's were much, much worse. There were real issues with respect to things like civil rights, Vietnam, etc.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:18 am to DyeHardDylan
Good Night and Good Luck
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Good movie.
"The film was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Director for Clooney and Best Actor for David Strathairn."
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:19 am to JawjaTigah
ISWYDT...you did some homework,didn't you?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:26 am to 14&Counting
quote:
Way before my time but I have to think the 60's were much, much worse. There were real issues with respect to things like civil rights, Vietnam, etc.
In the 1960's people were willing to get out in the streets and confront government wrong doing, which was actually a good thing.
The police rioted in Chicago, 1968.
Dan Rather was assaulted on the floor of the Dem convention, 1968.
Not to mention Dr. King killed in April and Bobby Kennedy killed in June, 1968.
Crazy time.
But definitely the day the Music died.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:28 am to TGFN57
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What's going on now is chump change compared to McCarthy and the red scare. All you need to do is to look up the history.
You do realize that he was right??
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:28 am to DyeHardDylan
if it means this:
NO
quote:
McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means "the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism."
NO
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:29 am to boomertoomer
quote:Good memory. Lived in those years. Polisci major. History buff. Read a lot. Love America. And I know my Left Wing Dem corrupt subversives' tactics, from way back. And yes, they are more like Nazis or fascists. Which is to say they are not totally unlike street marxists either. And why for them their ends justify whatever means necessary to achieve them. Totalitarian despot wannabes.
did some homework
The late 1960s and 70s unrest might be considered a beta experimental model for what we are seeing today. They play the long game.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:34 am to DyeHardDylan
Yeah, a mere coincidence that McCarthy warned us of communists infiltrating Hollywood and Hollywood is full of communists. Just a mere coincidence....
This country didnt turn sharply left in such a very short time all by itself. It had lots of help, and Hollywood and the Media were delighted to help out.
This country didnt turn sharply left in such a very short time all by itself. It had lots of help, and Hollywood and the Media were delighted to help out.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:39 am to HempHead
quote:But his tactics, and broad targeting of private citizens, were much worse.
Considering that McCarthy was actually right about Russian subversion and infiltration of government, I'd say this is much crazier.
I just don't find being "right" a valid justification of the overuse of power. Just like I'm sure they patriot act has probably helped their War on Terrorism, but that doesn't justify the overreach of power.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:45 am to WhiskeyPapa
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In the 1960's people were willing to get out in the streets and confront government wrong doing, which was actually a good thing.
I agree..It's an odd comparison now. It's 180 degree off, but hopefully the result will be the same.
That time worked because the rhetoric was that racisism was justified because of this or that...when television was able to show what was actually happening and it conflicted with the narrative, people minds started to change. The 180 degree turn is that the media, that has the ability to show what is actually happening, have taken to want to hide it and go back to relying on a narrative. This is why important events like the destructive "protests" are not covered..the fake "hate crimes" are not exposed etc. Those very same institutions that in the past helped inform people are now the ones who push disinformation in order to protect their ideologies. Now it's on the alternative news and information sources via blogs, "citizen journalists" etc, to break that barrier.
We have met the enemy and he is us.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:45 am to DyeHardDylan
The difference in McCarthy and what's going on now, is McCarthy actually had evidence against most of the people he accused.
Research in recent years (thanks to declassified FBI and Soviet archives) has proved that many of those people really were Soviet agents. There have been numerous books written about the evidence gleaned from Soviet and American declassified archives.
Research in recent years (thanks to declassified FBI and Soviet archives) has proved that many of those people really were Soviet agents. There have been numerous books written about the evidence gleaned from Soviet and American declassified archives.
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