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There's a difference between tutorials that are literally, "press up on the analogue stick to move forward" and games that provide guidance on where and where not to go.

Yes, I agree. "Rarely does either approach work" was probably too strong a statement but I will say that I find most modern games pretty unsatisfying from a standpoint of feeling like I actually figured something out myself.

For me, the mark of good game design is guiding the player while having them think they're coming up with the ideas themselves.

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Posted by DelU249

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Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:35 pm to DieDaily

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For me, the mark of good game design is guiding the player while having them think they're coming up with the ideas themselves.

it's so weird you say that. I started this whole thread because that's exactly what happened to me last night.

the game was leading me and I didn't know it. it lead me to the point I needed to go but I didn't have the upgrade to access anything beyond that...this was right after beating a boss for which I received an upgrade...so I figured I needed to use the new upgrade to get the next upgrade and kind of knew where that was. so I felt like a genius for not wasting any time figuring anything out

and then in bed it hit me that I had been tricked

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Posted by KamaCausey_LSU

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Posted on 2/22/17 at 3:48 pm to DieDaily

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Yes, I agree. "Rarely does either approach work" was probably too strong a statement but I will say that I find most modern games pretty unsatisfying from a standpoint of feeling like I actually figured something out myself.

That's why I love immersive puzzle games. Portal, AntiChamber, The Talos Principle, etc. They show you the rules and leave you to figure the rest.

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