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re: Bruce Lee vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr in their prime
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:54 pm to blueboy
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:54 pm to blueboy
quote:I've read the article. I know all of the stories. I have already seen all of these videos and read all about Bruce. I mentioned this earlier but don't know if you saw it. My mom's uncle is one of the most known people in the Jeet Kune Do world. His lineage is Bruce Lee > Dan Inosanto > my uncle. He knew Bruce Lee personally. He's still friends with his wife Linda. He gave seminars all over the world and used to write for Bruce Lee magazine.
quote: You are accusing me of not presenting any evidence. You haven't presented crap. I just linked an article talking about this exact subject. And Bruce's "lying" witnesses would have to all coordinate their false stories. It's actually less likely that they would or could do this. But you expect me to believe your assertions just because you have a gut feeling that it's all bull shite. quote: I've been around martial arts my whole life. Yeah, me too. I'm a 7 time world champion. Everyone on the OT is.
I'm not shitting on Bruce Lee because I respect his contribution to martial arts. But I'm just trying to separate myth from reality for people in this thread, because these Bruce Lee was super-human myths are ridiculous.
Here is a cool photo I have from his garage in California of his certificate from the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute, October 23, 1973:
Edit: posted the wrong photo originally. The photo I originally posted was a certificate for Bob Bremer, who was a close friend of my uncle. He has since passed, and my uncle has his certificate:
Here is Bob Bremer on the far right with Bruce Lee at the L.A. Chinatown school:
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 4:14 pm
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:55 pm to PrimeTime Money
The next thread should be
"Bruce Lee vs. God in their prime"
"Bruce Lee vs. God in their prime"
Posted on 2/15/17 at 3:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
Did Bruce ever say why he didn't compete in martial arts tournaments?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:01 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
because a karate man bruise on the inside, they don’t show their weaknesses, but you wouldn’t know nothing bout that cause you’re a big Barry White looking mothafricka
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:02 pm to Phat Phil
Bruce Lee would make Floyd Mayweather wash his underwear
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
I'm not saying he was a super hero, but I also don't think that he was just some actor whose abilities are all Hollywood bullshite.
And I do think he could beat Floyd.
And I do think he could beat Floyd.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:08 pm to blueboy
You don't think the guy who said he could end any fight in 4 seconds was full of it. Therefore you think he was a super hero.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
More presumptions.
Let me put it this way. I've seen far ore evidence that Lee had genuine abilities than that these abilities were all Hollywood bullshite. Honestly, even among the typical Lee skeptics, I've never heard anyone say that.
Let me put it this way. I've seen far ore evidence that Lee had genuine abilities than that these abilities were all Hollywood bullshite. Honestly, even among the typical Lee skeptics, I've never heard anyone say that.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:15 pm to Phat Phil
This Thread is full of dumb asses.
Lee would get fricking man handled by Mayweather.
Rex Kwon Do
Has a better chance against Mayweather that Lee.
Lee would get fricking man handled by Mayweather.
Rex Kwon Do
Has a better chance against Mayweather that Lee.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:41 am to blueboy
quote:
I've seen far ore evidence that Lee had genuine abilities than that these abilities were all Hollywood bullshite.
Thats a strawman. None of the "skeptics" are claiming that BL didnt have genuine abilities in general. But he wasnt a fighter. And we have no evidence that he would have been a great fighter. Yet we continue to have people that would nominate BL to represent earth in an intergalactic tournament.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:43 am to Phat Phil
Bruce Lee now could beat Mayweather in his prime.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:50 am to Hester Carries
I agree with the point whole heartedly, but seeing as how lee and Mayweather are the same size, and the fight allows grappling, tackling, and kicking, and Mayweather's forte is quick jabs and being fast at dodging punches, and wearing guys out over long fights...wouldn't such a fight make Mayweather a lot more average.
if Mayweather were a heavyweight or his best skills translated to such a fight, sure he would kick lee's arse.
I just don't think lee would really need to be great or even above average in such a fight if he's competent enough at a variety of fighting styles and he could take a punch from a guy who is known for quick jabs not quick lay you the frick out punches.
if Mayweather were a heavyweight or his best skills translated to such a fight, sure he would kick lee's arse.
I just don't think lee would really need to be great or even above average in such a fight if he's competent enough at a variety of fighting styles and he could take a punch from a guy who is known for quick jabs not quick lay you the frick out punches.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:57 am to DelU249
That's how Mayweather fights in a boxing ring when he trying to win rounds using the scoring criteria... which to many people unfamiliar with how boxing matches are scored, is more than just landing punches.
In a fight that is not being judged, he may fight differently.
In a fight that is not being judged, he may fight differently.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:but that's what he did during a great career
he may fight differently.
is he as great fighting differently?
i'm not a Floyd hater and he's obviously freaking great and i don't think his style is chickenshit or something like that...i just think under such a set of rules with an opponent of equal size who is competent at punching, kicking, grappling, or whatever...he's not great in that context. in a boxing ring, Mayweather would undoubtedly kick his arse. if Mayweather were the same type of boxer but bigger, Mayweather easy...it's really the size equality and the rules.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 12:58 pm to DelU249
quote:
but that's what he did during a great career
is he as great fighting differently?
This is awesome logic.
Ive seen Floyd fight a specific way 50 times. So I can safely assume he isnt good any other way.
Ive never seen Bruce fight. So I can safely assume hes great every way.
Thats a simplified version of your thought process.
Question: Why do you think Bruce Lee is a better tackler/wrestler than Floyd Mayweather?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 1:30 pm to Hester Carries
Floyd mayweather were equally great in other fighting styles im pretty sure we'd know about it. He's not shy, and he's internationally famous.
And so what if he is? He's famous for being hard to punch. In a street fight where you can take people to the ground, that kind of makes you easier to punch. At 155 lbs I don't think that is too tall an order for a competent guy like Bruce lee.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a contest. I'm just saying thats a type of fight against someone who has trained and is famous for training (but not fighting a super legit knock and unknown) to fight in a variety of ways would have the advantage with mayweather's best skills made less invincible.
And so what if he is? He's famous for being hard to punch. In a street fight where you can take people to the ground, that kind of makes you easier to punch. At 155 lbs I don't think that is too tall an order for a competent guy like Bruce lee.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a contest. I'm just saying thats a type of fight against someone who has trained and is famous for training (but not fighting a super legit knock and unknown) to fight in a variety of ways would have the advantage with mayweather's best skills made less invincible.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 1:54 pm to Hester Carries
quote:also not my logic, the specific way he fights is exceptionally great, I can assume he isn't as exceptional fighting another way because we'd have seen him do it.
Ive seen Floyd fight a specific way 50 times. So I can safely assume he isnt good any other way
there's no skirting the fact that the rules would be a disadvantage to Mayweather. how much? is it enough to make a difference? sure, all a matter of speculation, but let's not pretend that Mayweather is secretly an equally great mma fighter or that he's managed to keep a set of equally great skills hidden all this time. this proposed set of rules is materially different. it's like adding the pass to football.
if Mayweather had to fight lee and could choose an mma style fight or regulation boxing match, what do you think he's going to choose? and why?
Posted on 2/16/17 at 2:10 pm to PrimeTime Money
Thanks for the share.
That's pretty incredible
That's pretty incredible
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:57 pm to DelU249
quote:
I can assume he isn't as exceptional fighting another way because we'd have seen him do it.
Okay. I agree. If we havent seen someone actually do something we cant assume they are good at it. Cool.
Next sentence...
quote:
There's no skirting the fact that the rules would be a disadvantage to Mayweather.
Uhhh...Did you just assume that someone is good at something with no evidence (or even better yet, better than someone else?).
Im willing to analyze evidence though. Lets look at some video of BL tackling someone who doesnt want to be tackled, rolling with someone who is trying to submit him, punching someone hard thats trying to punch him, etc, etc etc.
Lets look at that video.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:45 pm to Hester Carries
I'm just wondering how you think Mayweather will be able to deal with the glow.
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