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I don't like the fact that Shulkin was unanimously confirmed as VA Secretary

Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:10 pm
Veteran affairs is a disastrous and catastrophic boondoggle and the best argument that you can make against government run healthcare. The horror stories coming out of it are too many and too disgusting to count.

It's going to take a real reformer to take a sledgehammer to that place and the fact that all 48 democrats gave him a seal of approval tells me he isn't going to get the job done, especially considering that he's a holdover from the Obama years.

All reformers worth a shite in history has always had fierce opposition to them and what they wanted to do, they didn't pride themselves on being chummy with the opposition.

I really wish Trump nominated someone else that could've inspired opposition from democrats.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51394 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:13 pm to
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I really wish Trump nominated someone else that could've inspired opposition from democrats.



So you're unhappy with Mattis?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37759 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:17 pm to
Nothing is going to be solved for us until the incompetent entrenched bureaucrats within the VA can be fired.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:20 pm to
Yes, quite shocking that Trump might have made a good appointment.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69379 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:21 pm to
I do ont understand why we can't just give veterans vouchers/health funding payments that they can use at any private facility.

Why do we need a completely different health service for people who were in the armed forces?
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:22 pm to
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the best argument that you can make against government run healthcare.


Then why are you upset?

Afraid it will be a successful endeavor?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26945 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:26 pm to
The VA, at least the health system portion of it, needs to be disbanded and shuttered.

Every veteran could be given a top notch insurance plan for a fraction of the cost. A parallel health system is not needed.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67508 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 6:22 am to
I could fix the VA in 3 years.

Tell everyone that works for the VA there will be no raises (COL or otherwise), no TDYs, no parties, no excellent fitness reports, etc until every VA office/hospital is running at peak efficiency.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18824 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 6:46 am to
I was hoping he would go with Palin after she promoted herself for it. Would be a good opportunity for her to finally put up or shut up.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13504 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:06 am to
Dims cannot politically slow down veterans nomination. If the nominee can walk and chew gum and has a body temperature above ambient their in.

But DNC silence is ominous in its rarity!
Posted by TakingStock
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:23 am to
This is precisely why DeVos was a great pick for Education since she can begin gutting the Delartment.
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:30 am to
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Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52920 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:49 am to
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It's going to take a real reformer to take a sledgehammer to that place and the fact that all 48 democrats gave him a seal of approval tells me he isn't going to get the job done, especially considering that he's a holdover from the Obama years.



While i agree with what you are saying, i don't think the Dems are against VA reform. I think they simply don't care about VA reform. It's one of those inconveniences that is more of an aggravation to them, than a priority. To the left, it's an easily overlooked "problem" that isn't an attention grabber.

So i wouldn't look too much into the voting patterns here, however, i do see what you are saying, and i do not trust the left when they are unanimously for anything. It's usually bad.

Personally, i don't really know anything about Shulkin, so i can't say if he's a good choice or not.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41215 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:07 pm to
Can the Dept of Ed and the VA both be eliminated in the same presidency? That would be glorious!
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10233 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:21 pm to
The VA is actually ahead of the private sector is sharing of medical information. It's not all bad, and I use it. I'm fortunate becuase my VA facility uses interns from a nearby medical school, and that's not the case in all locations.

But the issue is bigger than just medical care. Their entire compensation and disability systems needs reformed. If it ever got reformed they'd need to increase these payments. Call it an entitlement all you want, and maybe it is, but I think if you were injured, especially in combat, you are entitled.

Back to point, one issue is fake disability. PTSD is a big one. PTSD is certainly real, but it is abused. One example.

Shulkin has proven to be pretty good during his time at VA.

Off the top of my head, I think the VA is the 4th largest government agency. Wherever it falls, it is one the largest agencies, and to this alone, prone to more waste and abuse.

The vast majority of the VA's medical care is very good. This doesn't forgive the parts that are obviously flawed. We couldn't fire those people in Arizona and other places not becuase of VA regulations, but becuase of federal government entering into collective bargaining with union thugs.

It is an agency in need to overhaul, but the entire federal government is.

Don't throw Shulkin under the bus yet. I can bore you with my reasons if you're interested. For the record, I favored Shulkin as one of Trump's good choices.
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