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The Dutch have a prison problem, too many empty cells

Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:31 am
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While countries like Belgium, Britain, Haiti, Italy, the United States and Venezuela have grappled with prison overcrowding, the Netherlands has such a surplus of unused cells that it has rented some of its prisons to Belgium and Norway. It has also turned about a dozen former prisons into centers for asylum seekers.
About a third of Dutch prison cells sit empty, according to the Ministry of Justice. Criminologists attribute the situation to a spectacular fall in crime over the past two decades and an approach to law enforcement that prefers rehabilitation to incarceration.



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Thankfully, the US continues to lock up nonviolent drug offenders
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by fisherbm1112
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:32 am to
Send them some of our pieces of shite.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:32 am to
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Criminologists attribute the situation to a spectacular fall in crime over the past two decades and an approach to law enforcement that prefers rehabilitation to incarceration.


Not to a homogeneous, educated, small population that has severe limitations on who and for how long guests can stay in their country?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:32 am to
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Criminologists attribute the situation to a spectacular fall in crime over the past two decades and an approach to law enforcement that prefers rehabilitation to incarceration.



When will we fricking learn?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:33 am to
Same problem in Spain.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:34 am to
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prefers rehabilitation
why not turn them into 30-60-90 day rehab centers?
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:36 am to
United States and Netherlands are the same in every capacity and comparing crime issues is definitely apples to apples.......
Posted by Uncle Stu
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:40 am to
I dare the Dutch to take in a random sample of locked up prisoners from the US penal system to try and "rehabilitate" them with their process


different people, different background, different culture

the properties are not transitive
Posted by RJL2
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:44 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:45 am to
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The Dutch have a prison problem, too many empty cells


Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria, once head of Stalin’s secret police and was a right bastard. He told Stalin, “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime"

They clearly need new laws to address the lack of criminals.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:46 am to
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The Dutch have a prison problem, too many empty cells


Just Leagalize and regulate drugs already
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 10:51 am to
That's what happens with homogenous, white countries.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 12:04 pm to
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the Netherlands has such a surplus of unused cells
Perhaps they should start locking up some of the sorryassed muslims that their c word leader welcomed into their country.

Dumbass caucasian SJWs.
Posted by Pankins
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 12:42 pm to
Fun fact: they also invented the oven
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 12:45 pm to
Maybe the Dutch should start locking up the radical Muslim population that is overrunning their society.

Edit: Just saw the same post above. Derp.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:14 pm to
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lock up nonviolent drug offenders

I know this is a "subtle" legalize marijuana rant, but how come almost all criminals have marijuana and paraphernalia on them at the time of arrest. You can read the crime briefs in the news and see for yourself. Pretty much proof that weed makes some people more dangerous imo
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:25 pm to
The way to fix America's prison problem is simple, it will also help race relations. All you have to do are a few simple things:

Since we are the United States of America, take away state and local laws. All laws should come from the U.S. government and should be executed at the state and local level by officials. Set strict punishments for crimes with no grey area so that they can't be misinterpreted willfully or otherwise. That way if the same crime is committed in one state it garners the same exact punishment in another. This will deter citizens from being reckless and making careless decisions. It creates more accountability from all.

By doing that you can then make punishments for violent crimes even stricter. Start dropping 50 year minimums for armed robberies and just see how fast they drop. Committed a cold blooded murder? "Sir/Ma'am would you like to die by firing squad or rope? Your choice." I know there are finer details to murder like crimes of passion, but you can really break down the fundamental elements to make sure we don't execute innocent people. By doing this though we keep hard core criminals off the streets for longer or even permanently. More citizens would come forward to testify against criminals like these if they knew for certain they'd be going away for a long time.

Lastly, legalize marijuana. It has more benefits for health than most prescription drugs. If it is legalized you will see more shops open up selling it. That will destroy the local weed man's business, thus making the neighborhood that much more safe. He may resorts to violent crimes, but part two has that covered. Percentages of the tax revenue from sales would go right back into law enforcement keeping departments strong financially, allowing them to hire more and train better.

It isn't perfect, but if you get the right economist to map it out correctly it can work for the betterment of society as a whole.
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